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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 04:53 PM
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Daily Kos Psalm 109:8 Merchandise: Cafe Press Reverses Its Decision
"We initially pulled the Psalm 109:8 content from our products today because broader media dialog indicated that these designs potentially suggested violence towards the president. Based on current public discourse and further review of the actual content, we have determined that it is fair political commentary and we are in the process of reinstating this merchandise. As with all of our content, these designs will continue to be reviewed and if at any time their meaning is construed as advocating violence we will revisit our decision."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/11/19/806109/-Psalm-109:8-Merchandise:-Cafe-Press-Reverses-Its-Decision

(Thanks for the permission, Bloo.)
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 04:55 PM
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1. How can it not be construed as violence?
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 04:56 PM
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2. Cafe Press Ban... Anyone Dem or Blue pull merchandise and stop shopping there.
They are allowing materials to be distributed that indicate a direct threat to the President of the United States.. AND they are unpatriotic to boot. BAN.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 06:23 PM
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18. I bought pro-Obama shirts from CafePress. They still send me emails.
I will write them a nice little email re: this decision. ;)
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 04:57 PM
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3. Money talks
I guess the publicity that Cafepress is getting, and the sales they're making, outweigh any considerations of decency. I really hope Zazzle doesn't reverse their decision. I will certainly make my voice, as a Zazzle shopkeeper, known.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 04:59 PM
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4. Thank you, jenmito/Bloo/dk for the most up to date info on Zazzle's
Edited on Thu Nov-19-09 04:59 PM by Cha
big Switch! I cannot believe it but they're going to hear from me and I will know the reason why..and they'll know I am done as a customer as long as that piece of assasssination shite is up on their site.
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:16 PM
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13. wait - I THINK Zazzle is currently taking them down
Edited on Thu Nov-19-09 05:16 PM by oldtime dfl_er
let me check that. But I believe it's Cafepress that is allowing them, and NOT Zazzle.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:19 PM
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14. You're correct. My initial statement was muddled.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:19 PM
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15. Thanks..Yeah, I'm thinking and hoping I
misread it..I thought we were talking only about zazzle.

And, I'm flying around here and getting ready for work at the same time. I hope it's just cafe press. When I get back I'll know for sure before I write zazzle either way.
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:22 PM
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16. As of right now, it's only Cafepress that's allowing them
Zazzle has done the responsible thing and said they're unacceptable in their marketplace. YAY Zazzle!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 09:29 PM
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21. Thank you! I was only focused on
Zazz 'cause that's who I buy from..they send me $10 coupons all the time!

I will write them and thank them profusely~
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:00 PM
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5. Call them, tell them you won't be buying ANY of their stuff now, I won't
Margene H.
Content Usage Associate
(650) 655-3104 (O)
(650) 240-0260 (F)
www.cafepress.com

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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:02 PM
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6. Boycott Cafe Press.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:11 PM
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10. +1
I'm there and let's spread the word to friends and family of equal persuasion? :thumbsup:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:06 PM
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7. read this.....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7037956

i thought this was bad until i read the above link. of course the obama hating right wing crazy christian`s could`t understand what the entire chapter was about. but in reality their intent was to well wish death upon.....


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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 06:50 PM
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19. You have to realize the extremist right won't care about "context".
They will use it as amunition if they think it fits them.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:07 PM
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8. isn't it illegal to advocate violence against the President? Could Officer Mike
Edited on Thu Nov-19-09 05:07 PM by spooky3
investigate Café Press?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:12 PM
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11. Hell, let's also bring in Agent Mary for back up?
;)
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:26 PM
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17. I thought Agent Mike retired with the Bush admin...
...and was replaced by Comrade Ahmed?:D
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:09 PM
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9. Those who live by the almighty dollar, die by the almighty dollar.
Cafe Press wants to make money off promoting Obama's assassination? They can suffer the financial consequences.

BOYCOTT CAFE PRESS.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 05:15 PM
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12. thanks for posting this- I just e-mailed them with my "review" of my
plans to purchase holiday gifts through them, because of their view of what constitutes "fair political commentary"-

I don't expect I'll be revisiting my decision.

:shrug:

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 10:21 PM
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23. Thanks Bluerthanblue!
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 08:04 PM
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20. Obviously their TOS isn't worth the webpage it's written on
or they agree with this crap being peddled. There is no way they could be in any legal jeopardy given the obtuse nature of their TOS. I added comments highlights with****

sjd


Content Usage Policy

Welcome to the CafePress.com Content Usage Policy. This Content Usage Policy sets forth the guidelines for use of content through the CafePress Service. Users of the CafePress Service are responsible for making sure their content complies with this Content Usage Policy. If you believe a user is infringing upon your intellectual property rights please use the process set forth in our Intellectual Property Rights Policy. If you would like to report something that you believe does not comply with this Content Usage Policy, please email cup@cafepress.com.

* Questionable Material & Prohibited Content
* Marketing Restrictions
* Intellectual Property Information
* Frequently Asked Questions
* Additional Sources for Information

Questionable Material & Prohibited Content

All content being used in connection with the CafePress Service will be graded using a White - Gray - Black scale. Content that is clearly acceptable to use will fall within the White Zone. Content that is strictly prohibited will fall within the Black Zone. Content that is questionable will fall within the Gray Zone. Content that is deemed to be in the Gray Zone but closer to White Zone may have a higher probability of not being removed from a user's shop, while content that is deemed to be in the Gray Zone but closer to the Black Zone may have a higher probability of being removed.

Below are some general types of content that are prohibited on CafePress. CafePress will determine, in its sole and absolute discretion, whether your content is in compliance with this Content Usage Policy (CUP). Any content that is determined to be in the Gray Zone may be subject to removal in accordance with the CafePress.com Terms of Service and Shopkeeper Agreement.

General Guidelines for Prohibited Content

* Content that may infringe on the rights of a third a party.
* Items that make inappropriate use of Nazi symbols and glamorize the actions of Hitler.
* Use of marks that signify hate towards another group of people.
* Hate and/or racist terms.
* Inappropriate content or nudity that is not artistic in nature.
* Content that exploits images or the likeness of minors.
* Obscene and vulgar comments and offensive remarks that harass, threaten, defame or abuse others such as F*** (Ethnic Group).

* Content that depicts violence, is obscene, abusive, fraudulent or threatening such as an image of a murder victim, morgue shots, promotion of suicide, etc.

****I GUESS PROMOTING ASSASSINATION/MURDER IS FINE.

* Content that glamorizes the use of "hard core" illegal substance and drugs such as a person injecting a vial of a substance in their body.
**** * Material that is generally offensive or in bad taste, as determined by CafePress.com.

The list outlined above should NOT be construed as an exhaustive list of offensive material but rather as a general guideline for you to follow.

Click here for Examples of Prohibited Content

PLEASE NOTE: CafePress has millions of users from varied backgrounds, beliefs, and cultures, who differ in their views about what is considered offensive and acceptable. We recognize that with such global diversity there will be differences about what is considered offensive and that someone somewhere in the world may be offended by the opinions, perspectives and creative expressions of some of our users. We ask that all users respect each others' right to express themselves in a manner consistent with this Content Usage Policy.


http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/help/index.aspx?page=cup.aspx#A
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 10:18 PM
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22. Thanks..I want to keep this
kicked.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 12:30 AM
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24. FYI - DU has shut down its Cafe Press store and moving to Zazzle
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