The Obama Administration just summarily executed a US citizen without trial

[Cali_Democrat]

He was never even charged with a crime. Not cool. Not cool at all. According to the ACLU, this is a violation of US and international law

http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/aclu-lens-american-citizen-anwar-al-aulaqi-killed-without-judicial-process
<snip>

In response to today's killing of Al-Aulaqi, ACLU Deputy Legal Director Jameel Jaffer said:

The targeted killing program violates both U.S. and international law. As we've seen today, this is a program under which American citizens far from any battlefield can be executed by their own government without judicial process, and on the basis of standards and evidence that are kept secret not just from the public but from the courts. The government's authority to use lethal force against its own citizens should be limited to circumstances in which the threat to life is concrete, specific, and imminent. It is a mistake to invest the President — any President — with the unreviewable power to kill any American whom he deems to present a threat to the country.

In a hearing before a federal court last November, government lawyers argued the president should have unreviewable authority to kill Americans he has unilaterally determined to pose a threat. As National Security Project Litigation Director Ben Wizner added today: "If the Constitution means anything, it surely means that the President does not have unreviewable authority to summarily execute any American whom he concludes is an enemy of the state."

This should be condemned. It's disturbing that people on DU are cheering this. We are better than that. Thankfully the ACLU is speaking out against this.

[BklnDem75]

1. I have no problem with this

If you make a threat and work towards accomplishing that threat, it should make no difference where you're from. Chalk it up to bad life decisions.

[MannyGoldstein]

41. So the Constitution is for suckers?

We have laws and we have courts. We even have secret courts when things need to be kept secret.

Bypassing the courts never turns out well for the 99%.

[BklnDem75]

65. It's international law

As a general principle, international law permits the use of lethal force against individuals and groups that pose an imminent threat to a country, and officials said that was the standard used in adding names to the list of targets. In addition, Congress approved the use of military force against Al Qaeda after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. People on the target list are considered to be military enemies of the United States and therefore not subject to the ban on political assassination first approved by President Gerald R. Ford.

Both the C.I.A. and the military maintain lists of terrorists linked to Al Qaeda and its affiliates who are approved for capture or killing, former officials said. But because Mr. Awlaki is an American, his inclusion on those lists had to be approved by the National Security Council, the officials said.

At a panel discussion in Washington on Tuesday, Representative Jane Harman, Democrat of California and chairwoman of a House subcommittee on homeland security, called Mr. Awlaki “probably the person, the terrorist, who would be terrorist No. 1 in terms of threat against us.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/07/world/middleeast/07yemen.html?hp

[cstanleytech]

124. If he had turned himself into the government then I really could buy the whole court aspect you are

trying but the fact is he didnt and (assuming the reports are true) he kept on the move and kept on working for al-Qaeda.
Do I cheer for his death? No, but I do understand why the government decided to use the drones to kill him.

[Logical]

77. LOL.....I can imagine your reaction if McCain would have done it.

[stevenleser]

81. Most of us were OK with the war in Afghanistan for the same reason nt

[BklnDem75]

88. Don't know what you'd imagine...

because my reaction would be pretty consistent regardless of who lead. Would you be up in arms if someone you consider more Progressive made the same decision?

[jimbo3]

89. I love it when all the people

who are against waterboarding are somehow for the execution of US citizens without a trial. Interesting hypocrisy.

[BklnDem75]

90. Because they're totally the same thing!

Extreme, illegal torture and legally preventing an American from plotting and executing the death of more Americans is such an apple and oranges argument!

:eyes:

[jimbo3]

91. I could argue that

blowing up a US citizen with a drone is kind of extreme and illegal, and slightly worse than torture.

[BklnDem75]

92. You could argue that...

if you leave actual facts out of it and stuck only with your opinions.

[jimbo3]

93. So you don't think

that many of the people who were waterboarded were "plotting and executing the death of more Americans"? Since that seems to be your standard for giving someone a good ol' whacking...

[BklnDem75]

95. This is deep...

A captured prisoner is not a threat. This isn't 24.

[jimbo3]

97. So I guess if we just

captured Awlaki he wouldn't have been a threat either,would he? We certainly knew when his car was driving down the highway, didn't we? Then, we maybe could have even done one of those trial thingys, couldn't we? And, as long as it was "approved by the National Security Council", maybe we could have given him a lil' waterboarding as well, since its all OK as long as they approve it.

[BklnDem75]

98. Even better!

He could've surrendered instead of surrounding himself with armed radicals! He's only been targeted a year and a half. They could've had a good laugh about it over a couple of brews. This fact free opinion stuff is awesome!

[jimbo3]

99. If he did surrender, but he wouldn't give up any info,

would it be OK to waterboard him, to find out his plans, his personnel, and his network for "plotting and executing more Americans"?

[BklnDem75]

100. Why would we?

He already surrendered, so he'd freely provide maps and blueprints to the hidden evil lairs. Especially after that third brew. :toast:

[JNinWB]

2. Not cheering; also not shedding tears.

[treestar]

3. We aren't that "good"

Or we would all be dead. We can't go after this guy until we catch him under conditions which would allow for a trial? How many people would he kill first?

Geez people, quit looking so hard for a way to bash the President. Would you have him leave terrorists alone?

[Cali_Democrat]

4. I would condemn this if it was Bush ordering the summary execution of a US citizen

Would you?

[msanthrope]

9. I would have jumped for joy of Bush had targeted OBL instead of going to war in Iraq. nt

[treestar]

10. No. This is the way Bush should have dealt with Al Qaeda

Instead of attacking Afghanistan and Iraq.

[stevenleser]

12. Exactly. n/t

[ellisonz]

37. That's how Clinton rolled.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Infinite_Reach

[cstanleytech]

125. Didnt he try to get the government in Afghanistan to hand over bin laden and his people and

they refused? Also the war with iraq wasnt over terrorists being given a safe haven like in Afghanistan but rather the reason given was because Saddam had (and no, I didnt buy it when Bush tried to sell it) WMDs.

[emilyg]

61. Yes - loudly.

[msanthrope]

5. Bullshit he wasn't charged with a crime!!! He was charged and tried for incitement to murder in

Yemen He was convicted in absentia.

He didn't defend himself in Yemen, or here.

[Cali_Democrat]

6. According to the article:

"Today in Yemen, U.S. air strikes killed American citizen Anwar Al-Aulaqi. Al-Aulaqi has never been charged with a crime. Last year, the ACLU and Center for Constitutional Rights represented Al-Aulaqi's father in a lawsuit challenging the government's asserted authority to carry out "targeted killings" of U.S. citizens located far from any armed conflict zone. We argued that such killings violate the Constitution and international law, but the case was dismissed in federal court last December."

Do you disagree with the ACLU account? Do you have a link that shows him being formally charged with a crime?

Thank you in advance.

[msanthrope]

8. The ACLU isn't a news agency--you are wrong, and so are they.

Anwar al-Awlaki charged by Yemeni authorities
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/yemen/8106271/Anwar-al-Awlaki-charged-by-Yemeni-authorities.html

Awlaki Gets 10-Year Sentence For Role in Contractor's Murder

Read more at: http://www.investigativeproject.org/2497/awlaki-gets-10-year-sentence-for-role-in

[Cali_Democrat]

11. Was he charged with a crime by the US govt?

That's what the ACLU was referring to. The US govt is the one that summarily executed him, but never even charged him with a crime.

Also, Yemen is not exactly a beacon of human rights and freedom.

Just sayin'

[msanthrope]

13. Ah--so the death of a French citizen isn't good enough for you?

He threatened a female Seattle cartoonist with a fatwa. Tried to blow up an airliner. Sent PETN bombs. Should we have waited until he got better at it?

[Cali_Democrat]

17. What do you mean good enough?

Was he charged with a crime by the US govt? Apparently it wasn't good enough for the US government, because they never charged him before they summarily executed him without trial.

Go figure.

[PragmaticLiberal]

106. He had every opportunity to defend himself.

All he had to do was come out of HIDING and turn himself in.

[stevenleser]

7. I'll say the same thing I said after the killing of Bin Laden. We are at war with Al Qaeda and

its affiliates. Being that this is my position, the legality of acts against them and their members are governed by the Geneva conventions and other rules of war. There is nothing against the type of attack that killed OBL or this other person in the Geneva conventions regarding acceptable conduct in war.

[Sheepshank]

14. That how I see these actions....acts of war. n/t

[FSogol]

55. I agree. We are at war with Al Qaeda. n/t

[Politicalboi]

15. Who's next?

Bush or Cheney? LOL!

[stevenleser]

18. Here is a list of killed, captured and wanted in terms of Al Qaeda and affiliate leaders

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/10/dead-captured-and-wanted/

[Sheepshank]

16. execution?

hardly.

I'm sure there was an element and risk of failure in this military attack...not so much in an execution.

[Zorro]

19. ACLU Defends Nazis' Right To Burn Down ACLU Headquarters

http://www.theonion.com/articles/aclu-defends-nazis-right-to-burn-down-aclu-headqua,1648/

[stevenleser]

20. Kicked and UNRecced for dishonest framing. n/t

[Vattel]

21. So much for the fifth amendment.

One would have thought that the federal government cannot deprive a citizen of life without due process of law. But now if the President says that you pose a threat to national security, he has a right to kill you even if you are no where near a battlefield and even if you pose no immediate threat of harm. The Prez gets to be judge, jury and executioner.

[stevenleser]

22. Wrong, we are at war with Al Qaeda and its affiliates. There are no protections

for citizens if they join a country or group with whom we are at war or if one spies for such a country or group.

[Vattel]

45. and the president decides who has done that. Thx John Yoo.

[stevenleser]

51. Nice try, but no. THEY decided that for us when they publicly declared war on us. That is something

you conveniently don't try to address.

[Vattel]

70. You should read Scalia and Steven's dissent in Hamdi.

Stevens disagrees with you. He doesn't think that war means that we can simply kill or even detain any American citizens who the President identifies as enemy combatants. Yoo and Thomas and stevenleser do.

[stevenleser]

82. I'm sure that Yoo and Thomas also agree with me that 2+2=4 so are you going to argue THAT now?

The guilt by association fallacy is identified as a logical fallacy for a reason.
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/guilt-by-association.html

[Vattel]

101. Your fallacy is to pretend that the issue is a simple one.

Again, educate yourself by reading some of the relevant literature.

[stevenleser]

104. Your tacit admission that you used a logical fallacy as part of your argument is telling. nt

[Vattel]

108. lol, get over yourself.

[stevenleser]

114. LOL, as soon as you get over using logical fallacies in your reasoning with me. nt

[jenmito]

23. US says it has legal authority to kill American-born Anwar al-Awlaki

“It is ridiculous to say our argument leads to the conclusion that the president can assassinate who he wants,” Letter said.

He said the administration’s efforts are aimed “against somebody who is formally and officially designated as a global terrorist, who is attempting to carry out operations continually in order to kill Americans.”

Mr. Awlaki is a leader of the Yemen-based group Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, which claimed responsibility for the makeshift bombs recently discovered in air cargo bound for the US.

On Monday, he was quoted in a video displayed on militant websites urging Muslims to take up arms against Americans.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2010/1108/US-says-it-has-legal-authority-to-kill-American-born-Anwar-al-Awlaki

[Cali_Democrat]

24. "somebody who is formally and officially designated as a global terrorist"

Scary stuff

[jenmito]

25. Al-Awlaki was a sworn enemy of the U.S. and is on video saying as much. n/t

[Cali_Democrat]

26. Why wasn't he formally charged with a crime by the US govt?

[jenmito]

27. He declared war on the U.S. He was a fair target. Defend him all you want.

[Cali_Democrat]

28. You didn't answer my question. If he was an evil terrorist, why not charge him with a crime?

[jenmito]

29. He was on the CIA's Capture or Kill List. Read here for justification of his killing:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=786247&mesg_id=786247

[Harmony Blue]

34. They can't answer this question

because they know it wouldn't pass the smell test in a court of law.

[Cali_Democrat]

35. Yep. n/t

[jenmito]

39. You can continue to ignore my links and the facts all you want. Yep.

[Cali_Democrat]

42. Wait,

Your link does not explain why the US government never even attempted to formally indict him or charge him with a crime.

But I'm sure you already knew that. He was just an evil terrorist and didn't deserve due process and the US government doesn't have to present any evidence or prove anything.

'Murka, fuck ya. :patriot:

[stevenleser]

63. We're at war with them. We are beyond law enforcement. n/t

[MessiahRp]

94. Your war justification is pathetic.

We declared a war on drugs. Can't wait to see if we use similar arguments for killing US drug dealers... you know since declared war makes it all fair game in your world.

[stevenleser]

103. So obviously not the same thing. Your willingness to deny facts to yourself is pathetic

A President declaring a war on poverty or drugs is not the same as another group declaring war on our country and following up that declaration with multiple attacks.

[jenmito]

38. He declared war on America. He called for the killing of U.S. citizens many times on video.

You can dismiss that if you want. I don't and neither does the govt.

[Cali_Democrat]

43. Wonderful

Why didn't the US govt use this evidence to formally indict him or charge him with a crime?

[jenmito]

47. I'm done going in circles with you. We're at war with al Qaeda. He was a member of al Qaeda. We

killed him. End of story.

[Cali_Democrat]

48. Still haven't answered the question

With all this apparent evidence and proof of his affiliation with a terrorist organization plotting to kill US citizens, why didn't the US government formally indict him or charge him with a crime?

[stevenleser]

53. The question is wrong. When we are at war with a group, we're beyond law enforcement. n/t

[jenmito]

57. Thanks again!

Did you see up-thread where I linked to your thread? :)

[Cali_Democrat]

72. Still no answer. n/t

[stevenleser]

84. See #53 for the answer nt

[DFab420]

49. But but but He hadn't done anything REALLY REALLY wrong *SOB* *SOB*

He was just some poor guy who didn't know what he was getting into when he posted videos instructing American Muslims to kill their neighbors etc. It was jsut a game when he joined a internationally recognized terrorist organization. IT"S HIS RIGHT AS AN AMERICAN TO WANT TO KILL AND DESTROY ALL WE STAND FOR DAMNIT!


:cry: :sob:


:sarcasm:

[stevenleser]

52. War means that you are beyond law enforcement. n/t

[stevenleser]

62. It's wartime, we're beyond law enforcement. The Geneva conventions are the only rules

that apply here.

[Vattel]

71. no, the Bill of Rights also apply.

[stevenleser]

83. No, they dont nt

[treestar]

44. There's a legal procedure for that

Which you don't get to just ignore.

[Major Hogwash]

60. And evidently, neither did al-Awlaki!

Too bad.

[Crunchy Frog]

111. It is scary stuff. I'm glad they got him.

[Tarheel_Dem]

30. Try Harder!

:eyes:

[dionysus]

33. What? no crocodile tears and calling obama a war criminal?!1 them's fightin woids!

put up yer dukes!1!1



:rofl:
:hi:

[Tarheel_Dem]

36. Not one single tear, crocodile or otherwise. Good riddance, I say.

:hi:

[Major Hogwash]

31. Good for President Obama. Reason #1298 why I'm voting again for President Obama.

Members of Al Queda are terrorists, and terrorists don't get trials.
End of history lesson.

[TheKentuckian]

123. There is no exception in the Constitution for terrorism. Terrorist and worse get trials.

Your grasp of history seems rather flawed.

[frazzled]

32. Happens right on our soil every day

Start with Fred Hampton and continue with the more mundane, everyday murders of innocent people who were never charged with anything:

Last week, Kevin Drum wrote about Johannes Mehserle, the white former transit cop who was convicted of involuntary manslaughter for shooting and killing an unarmed black man, Oscar Grant, who was lying face down and handcuffed. ...

1999: "It looks like one guy may have panicked and the rest followed suit," a police official told The New York Times after the fatal shooting of 22-year-old Amadou Ahmed Diallo, a Guinnea-Bissau immigrant who was killed when four white New York police officers in plain clothes fired 41 shots at him, 19 of which hit his body. The officers said they thought Diallo was reaching for a gun when they shot him in the doorway of his apartment. Turns out it was his wallet.

2003: While surrendering on his knees in front of four Las Vegas police officers, Orlando Barlow is shot with an assault rifle by officer Brian Hartman from 50 feet away. Hartman argued that he feared Barlow was feigning surrender and about to grab a gun. Barlow was unarmed; a jury ruled the fatal shooting was "excusable." Hartman later resigned from the force a month before a federal probe uncovered that he and other officers printed T-Shirts labeled "BDRT" which stood for "Baby's Daddy Removal Team" and "Big Dogs Run Together."

2006: Just hours before his wedding, 23-year-old Sean Bell leaves the strip club hosting his bachelor party, jumps into a car with two friends, and is killed when police fire 50 shots into his vehicle, wounding his friends. Police say they opened fire after Bell rammed his car into an unmarked police van filled with plainclothes officers. They say they followed Bell and his friends outside the club suspecting that one person in their group had a gun. Referring to Bell and his friends, Mayor Bloomberg told the Associated Press "there is no evidence that they did anything wrong." A judge acquitted the officers of all charges in 2008.

2009

January 1: On New Years morning, three Bay Area Rapid Transit officers pull 22-year-old Oscar Grant and four other black men off a train in Oakland. You can view what happened afterwards in this Youtube video. In it, now former-transit officer Mehserle can be seen shooting Grant in the back.

June 10: Niles Meservey, 51, tries to drive away from a Washington state restaurant, but he's drunk. Officers are called to the restaurant parking lot to intervene. They block Meservey's car with their vehicles, shoot him with a Taser, and his car lurches forward. At that point, Officer Troy Meade fires seven shots with his handgun into Meservey's back, killing him.

2010

January 29: Portland police officers get a call to check on a suicidal and armed man at an apartment complex. Aaron Campbell, 25, comes out of the apartment walking backward toward police with his hands over his head. The Oregonian reports that police say Campbell ignored their orders to put his hands up. At which point one officer fired six bean bag shots at his back.

January 10: Porterville, Calif. police officers shoot and kill Victor Steen after stopping him for a traffic violation he committed while riding his bike. Officers say they struggled with Sheen, Tasing him, and chasing him to his mother's house where they broke down the door and the altercation continued, until they shot him.

June 5: Tyrone Brown, a 32-year-old former Marine from East Baltimore, is shot 12 times in a crowded bar after an off-duty Baltimore police officer fires 13 rounds at him for groping one of the officer's lady friend's.

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2010/07/when-police-shoot-unarmed-man-oscar-grant-verdict-Mehserle

When we get agitated about these daily injustices, I'll start worrying about the Al Qaeda guy.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

40. Here's a tiny violin.

:nopity:

[Vattel]

46. Sad how Democrats buy into a lot of John Yoo's bullshit.

[DFab420]

50. Yea it is sad how when you go to war with a terrorist organization then people join said org.

and get killed for planning terrorist attacks...So very fucking sad...



:facepalm:

[Major Hogwash]

59. Al-Awlaki was also responsible for being one of the members of Al Queda

Who said that you go to war with the terrorist organization that you have, not necessarily with the terrorist organization that you want.

Hah!

He won't be a problem for us anymore.
I'll sleep better tonight.

[Vattel]

68. Ya, I was so scared of him, I wanted to toss the Bill of Rights.

[Major Hogwash]

75. You make me want to vomit over your totally insane "bill of rights" crock of bullshit.

Maybe you should go tell that to the families of the victims of 9/11.

[Vattel]

67. The issue is obviously not whether a particular terrorist got killed.

Get a clue.

[stevenleser]

54. Wrong. When someone declares war on us, we dont need interpretation from a lawyer. Again. nice try

not.

[Vattel]

66. lol. you really think the issue is that simple.

Do you think that the police should be allowed to kill people they suspect of being murderers? Oh but war is different, I suppose. Educate yourself.

[stevenleser]

85. Yes, it is that simple. No one forced Al Qaeda to declare war on us. No one was forced to join Al

Qaeda. The people who did joined because they want to war on us and various other countries.

War is that simple, unfortunately.

[YellowCosmicSun]

58. Do you think al-Awlaki would give you a trial before cutting off your head?

[Vattel]

69. Irrelevant.

[YellowCosmicSun]

56. He was at war with America. Do you think he would show you the mercy that you want to show him?

[mikekohr]

64. When You Dedicate Your Life To Placing Bombs On Planes Filled With Innocent Men, Women, and Children

you should not be surprized when we fly an un-manned aircraft filled with explosives through your windshield.

[BlueIris]

73. Sickening. nt

[stevenleser]

87. Are you referring to Al Qaeda or us? nt

[Tx4obama]

74. If you declare WAR on the USA, then the USA has the right to take you out! n/t

[ClarkUSA]

76. Al-Awlaki was actually indicted in two countries last year.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=2027764&mesg_id=2028709

[Major Hogwash]

112. Two countries!!! Well, there ya go, it wasn't just in Yemen!!

I'd like to see Greenwald's face now.
I'll bet he'd look like he swallowed a bucket of lemons!

[Logical]

78. If McCain had done this the DU would be throwing a fit. We are as two faced....

as any GOP person!

[TwilightGardener]

80. Er, no, I would never have "thrown a fit" over an avowed enemy of my country being killed in the

course of conducting war. You, maybe, but not me.

[stevenleser]

86. Nope, we wouldn't. Not if Bush had done it and not if McCain had done it.

I applauded Bush going into Afghanistan to try to get at Al Qaeda. Iraq is another story.

[TwilightGardener]

79. I'm sure AQ valued him for his citizenship and knowledge of America

and its culture. I'm sure they hoped that he was essentially untouchable because of his place of birth, combined with his seeking refuge in Yemen. Perhaps they had hoped to use America's constitutional protections against us in this instance--kind of the way they used our country to train the 9/11 terrorists. But, they were wrong.

[Recovered Repug]

96. According to Jefferson:

" strict observance of the written law is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to the written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the ends to the means."

[Vattel]

102. This might apply if AQ is about to take over the US

[otohara]

105. Good Riddance

to the bad bad man

[jzodda]

107. I won't condemn it. I welcome it.

and I hope there is more of it. Kill them all.

[MilesColtrane]

109. K&R

This is the single most egregious, constitution-shredding Bush policy that Obama has seen fit to continue.

Tip to those defending this action: if you're taking a side against the ACLU, you're probably on the wrong side.

[Tx4obama]

110. U.S. Citizen ('suspect') gunned down by U.S. SWAT team during manhunt - no trial given to this guy

Authorities: CA slayings suspect killed in manhunt
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_COUNCILMAN_KILLED_MANHUNT?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-10-01-23-47-36

I bet many will say that it was okay to kill this non-convicted U.S. citizen that did NOT get a trial.

I haven't seen any outrage today about his 'assassination' - how come? Where's it at?

[Tx4obama]

113. Strike Three--Obama got the Planner, the Propagandist, and the PETN Lover--all in one strike.

Strike Three--Obama got the Planner, the Propagandist, and the PETN Lover--all in one strike.

In one drone attack, we apparently got three important targets:

The Planner--- Anwar al-Awlaki. The guy behind the Fort Hood shooting, the Christmas Underwear Bomb, the PETN cargo bombs, the Times Square Bomb, the attempted assassination of Stephen Timms, and the attemped bombing of British Airways

SNIP

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=2039331&mesg_id=2039331


p.s. Anyone that thinks that these THREE terrorists (that were hanging out together all in the same place) could in any way be innocent - should rethink their position!

I commend President Obama for sending in the drone and not putting the lives of our troops/SEALS in danger.

[opihimoimoi]

115. FUCK THIS SHIT,,,,The kid went to a drone prone area without showing his papahs

he paid the price...sorry....next idot

[Cali_Democrat]

116. Thanks for the kick for a month old thread

This information needs to be seen. Thankfully the ACLU is speaking out against these assassinations of US citizens.

[opihimoimoi]

117. Was worth it to show how messed up your thinking really is...

[Cali_Democrat]

118. So I think the summary execution of Awlaki was deplorable....

...and you think that's messed up?

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but you will NOT silence my opinion.

Ever.

[opihimoimoi]

119. how sad.... :o(

[smiley]

120. quite correct....

your lack of judicial empathy is sad. But excellent job on continuing to kick this very important thread!

[opihimoimoi]

121. important? hardly...only shows persistence at attempting to link Obama to kids death

grasping at straws much

[Cali_Democrat]

126. Anwar Al-Awlaki was not a kid. He was born in 1971.

This OP from last month is specific to Anwar Al-Awlaki. You're thinking of another US citizen summarily executed by the US government without due process. That person was born in 1995.

You've really gotta start getting your summarily executed US citizens straight.

Educate yourself, please.

[opihimoimoi]

127. that person 95 was not executed as you say...he was offed by being under the drones head...

I don care about this other fella who is mentioned...

This is persistent attempt at fucking with Obamas mission only shows the desperation of the GOPers...

They gatta win by making others look bad...shows how weak the GOPers really are...so shallow and empty they gatta cheat...

[MjolnirTime]

122. I see you've got an upside down flag there. That's cute.