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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 07:12 PM
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The RW is taking a 2012 victory lap and here is why it worries me.
For anyone who keeps and eye or an ear on the epicenter of all rightwing media - talk radio - it is hard to notice that they in unison (as always) are driving home the point that Obama is a lost cause, no way he can win re-election in 2012. Bouyed by the poll numbers they are feeding their audiences the idea that Obama's base (be it teachers, liberals, unions, etc.) are leaving him in droves and supposedly are going to vote Republican.

This is why this worries me:

"Everyone is doing it" we are a nation of followers and they are trying to establish this as the new normal. The regular MSM, as usual, is following right along. Things like this do influence people and the clear objective of this is to dissuade involvement and voting by the non-rightwing side. No the middle and the left do not listen to these shows but they do hear the grimy runoff and that works.

The Fix. As we have watched in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Maine the newly elected Republican Governors and legislatures are openly restricting access to voter registration. Nothing new (there is a lone history of Republican measures to stop people from voting) but they are also going to be the ones that count the votes. Like the "conventional wisdom" of the the BIG LIE cited above when the results come out and make no sense it will be washed away in the public mind by a chorus of "Oh we already knew THAT". Pennsylvania's Governor is literally changing how the score is recorded.

Maybe I am being paranoid but it won't surprise me if that is what is going on.

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 07:14 PM
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1. Sounds pretty much on the mark.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 07:15 PM
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2. That's what happens when the GOP controls the media.
It'd be nice if the Left didn't play along.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 09:26 PM
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7. Not only the media, but the voting machine software.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:48 PM
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20. that's the scary part
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 07:32 AM
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12. thats what gets my goat.
All day long, Hannity and limbaugh gloating over liberals disserting Obama. They don't even bother to praise their own candidates. Just, he can't even get liberals to support him. It's a lie of course, but we participate in it.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 07:16 PM
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3. I hear you, but it is too soon to give up, and buy their garbage.
They are touting this viewpoint, and we must fight it.

This is our challenge.

We must fight them on every front.

We must win in 2012.

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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 07:20 PM
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4. So, time to change the narrative!
We have the choice of being paranoid and fretting or calling people on the lie...Obama DOES have a good chance of winning. ALso, if we push our local candidates they will ride on each other's coat tails. Time to get out and find that candidate and work for them. I found mine; you'll be so excited when you find yours. Ken Aden for the 3rd District of NW Arkansas. He is so progressive and just a breath of fresh air.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 07:34 PM
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5. If Obama embraced Occupy Wall Street
he would win the populist vote again. I wish he would. It would make this election so much easier. It's there on a platter if he'd only take a bite.
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 09:31 PM
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19. But then his
donations would dry up! Not gonna happen.........
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Vicar In A Tutu Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 09:03 PM
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6. Relax.
Obama's got this.

Do you think the GOP enthusiasm would have been as high in 2010 if all of their Tea Party hopefuls had been crushed in the primaries?

Just wait until Mitt Romney is their nominee and then wait a little longer to see how his monumental lack of charisma plays in widescreen.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 10:33 AM
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15. Two Of The Most Charismatically Challenged Presidents In My Lifetime Won Huge Elections
In fact they were the two biggest pop vote landslides in the twentieth century.
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Vicar In A Tutu Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 11:44 AM
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16. To whom are you referring?
Such Presidents are almost invariably fortunate to have come up against opponents equally challenged in that area. Nixon certainly was.

In this era, television is king, and a stiff of a candidate never comes out of it too well. Gone are the days in which a President could be a man barely able to walk.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 10:22 PM
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8. If that's their strategy it's pretty stupid
(Not that talk radio isn't by definition stupid, but even so.) You don't give the electorate the impression that you've got a walk in the park in front of you. That depresses turnout. People won't go to the polls if they think it's already in the bag for their side.

Sounds more like schoolyard crowing to me.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 11:06 PM
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9. You are correct.
I'll head for Canada.
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Mr Deltoid Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 12:51 AM
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10. I know someone who voted for Reagan
'Because he was going to win anyway'

So, yeah your on to something.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 07:25 AM
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11. Victory lap?
They can't even decide on a candidate. They're still looking for their great white hope. I see desperation where you see a victory lap.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 08:26 AM
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13. It doesn't always work
Or Obama would not have won in 2008 - the MSM did its best. As for Obama's base, for all their efforts he still has high approval ratings from liberals.

Not everyone is that dumb. It may work for the ignorant followers, but they are limited in number and Republicans already anyway.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 10:30 AM
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14. Yup, pundits assumed Clinton until last few weeks before Iowa while polls kept showing her in 3rd.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 12:51 PM
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18. bs
Edited on Fri Sep-30-11 12:52 PM by Skittles
I don't remember any assumption from the media other than Obama and Hillary were the appointed ones
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 11:54 AM
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17. This means the Right is worried; they know they got nothin'.
"Whistling past the graveyard" comes to mind.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 08:43 PM
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21. The Pluses are more than enough to off set the Psyops of the GOP
Obama will prevail
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