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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 09:17 AM
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Senator Wyden: Repeal foreign profit tax break (reduce corporate tax rate to 24 percent)

Senator Wyden: Repeal foreign profit tax break

By Kevin Drawbaugh

(Reuters) - The tax code may be headed for some major renovation, and Senator Ron Wyden, a rangy Oregon Democrat, has come up with one of Congress' most complete blueprints.

Among his recommendations are slashing the corporate income tax rate, repealing a law that lets companies put off paying taxes on overseas income, and allowing a tax holiday for repatriation of foreign profits, he said in an interview.

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It would eliminate the law that allows a corporation to defer paying taxes on profits made overseas as long as the money stays abroad. Because of this law, an estimated $1.5 trillion in foreign profits is parked overseas, avoiding U.S. taxes.

Wyden-Coats would grant large corporations a onetime repatriation tax holiday, letting them bring that money into the United States at a rock-bottom tax rate. By eliminating deferral, Wyden said, his bill would sharply reduce the corporate tax rate to 24 percent from 35 percent.

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Twenty-four percent seems awfully low!

From the President's proposal, PDF

PRINCIPLES FOR TAX REFORM

  1. Lower tax rates. The tax system should be simplified and work for all Americans with lower individual and corporate tax rates and fewer brackets.

  2. Cut Inefficient and Unfair Tax Breaks. Cut tax breaks that are inefficient, unfair, or both so that the American people and businesses spend less time and less money each year filing taxes and cannot avoid their responsibility by gaming the system.

  3. Cut the deficit. Cut the deficit by $1.5 trillion over the next decade through tax reform, including the expiration of tax cuts for single taxpayers making over $200,000 and married couples making over $250,000.

  4. Increase job creation and growth in the United States. Make America stronger at home and more competitive globally by increasing the incentive to work and invest in the United States.

  5. Observe the Buffett Rule. No household making over $1 million annually should pay a smaller share of its income in taxes than middle-class families pay. As Warren Buffett has pointed out, his effective tax rate is lower than his secretary’s. No household making over $1 million annually should pay a smaller share of its income in taxes than middle-class families pay. This rule will be achieved as part of an overall reform that increases the progressivity of the tax code.


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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 10:09 AM
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1. No comment? n/t
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 10:38 AM
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2. We tried repatriation in 2004, it went to buying shares not job creation
Edited on Sat Sep-24-11 10:39 AM by roseBudd
I actually immerse myself in this aspect of wonkdom and routinely read the Capitil Gains and Games blog and anything Bruce Bartlett writes

here is what we know about the last time repatriation was tried

http://capitalgainsandgames.com/blog/pete-davis/2011/dividend-repatriation-redux-not-next-two-years

The Congressional Research Service analyzed dividend repatriation in this February 11, 2009 study. CRS cited two studies showing that the dividends repatriated in 2004 failed to stimulate the economy or generate many domestic jobs. Most of the money went to shareholders through share repurchases and dividend payments. See this NBER paper. Even though the 2004 law prohibited using repatriated dividends for share repurchases and dividend payments, "money is fungible." That is, the companies designated the repatriated dividends for the purposes required by the law, but since those uses were already being paid for, funds were freed up in like amount for share repurchases and dividend payments.

CRS found the 2004 dividend repatriations were heavily concentrated in a few firms: over half in the top 15 -- Pfizer; Merck; Hewlett Packard; Johnson & Johnson; IBM; Schering-Plough; Dupont; Bristol-Myers Squibb; Eli Lilly; PepsiCo; Proctor and Gamble; Intel; Coca Cola; Altria; and Motorola.

CRS also found that U.S. multinationals anticipate another chance to repatriate and have grown their unrepatriated earnings abroad by about 80% or nearly $1 tr. since 2005, bringing the total to about $2.3 tr.

On January 28, 2009,The Wall Street Journal published this op-ed by Allen Sinai in favor of dividend repatriation. He estimated that dropping the current 35% top corporate income tax rate by 85% to 5.25% for one year would bring a dividend repatriation of $545 b.

The Center for Budget and Policy Priorities countered with this.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=2270



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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 10:51 AM
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3. Interesting
From the CBPP link:

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When it enacted the 2004 dividend repatriation tax holiday, Congress explicitly stated that it should not be repeated: ‘‘ conferees emphasize that this is a temporary economic stimulus measure, and that there is no intent to make this measure permanent, or to ‘extend’ or enact it again in the future.’’<31> Ignoring this intention and resurrecting the tax holiday would lead U.S. multinationals to expect more such tax holidays in the future. That, in turn, would give them a powerful incentive to keep or even shift profits and jobs out of the United States in anticipation of the next tax holiday.

Most of the funds repatriated under the 2004 holiday came from low-tax countries and tax havens, including the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Bermuda, and the Cayman Islands.<32> As two journalists who examined this issue noted, “ is important to step back and consider how all these funds got bottled up in low-tax countries. It’s not just the result of U.S. multinationals investing in plant and equipment in attractive low-tax, low-wage locations. U.S. multinationals engage in aggressive tax planning . . . in order to shift profits out of the United States and other high-tax countries and into havens like Ireland and Bermuda.”<33>

They also observed, “(repeated) tax holidays would mean that over the long term, the tax cost of overseas investment by U.S. multinationals would be reduced, just as if the law provided a tax credit for foreign investment. So the economic effect would be to further increase the tax advantages of foreign over domestic investment in the long term.” Finally, “the turbocharge created when low foreign rates are combined with easy profit shifting would encourage further foreign investment and foreign job creation.”

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Some commentators have warned that business interests will press for repeated tax holidays until there is international tax reform that removes the incentive for corporations to delay paying U.S. income tax by sheltering their profits overseas.<35> The solution, however, is not repeated tax holidays that constitute unsound economic and tax policy, but rather to tackle the underlying problem.<36>

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The CBPP proposed a solution in this piece: Six Tests for Corporate Tax Reform

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3. Does the proposal reduce the tax code’s bias toward overseas investments?

International tax regimes span the spectrum between “residence” (or “worldwide”) and “territorial.” A residence tax system taxes a company on its global income, regardless of where that income was generated; a territorial system taxes only the domestic share of a multinational company’s income.

The current U.S. corporate income tax, while often characterized as a worldwide system, is actually a hybrid. It does tax U.S.-based corporations on a worldwide basis, while providing a credit for foreign taxes paid in order to avoid double taxation. In a major nod in the territorial direction, however, foreign profits are not taxed until they are repatriated. As a result, corporations often “defer” repatriating their foreign profits indefinitely, with the result that they never pay taxes on them — even though they may obtain an immediate U.S. tax deduction for expenses they incur in supporting the same overseas investments.

This deferral feature often allows U.S. multinationals to pay significantly lower taxes on profits from their overseas investments than on profits from their domestic investments. The average combined tax rate, including both U.S. and foreign taxes, on large (i.e., assets over $10 million) corporations’ total foreign-source income was 16.1 percent in 2004, two-thirds of the 25 percent tax rate on their domestic income, according to a 2008 Government Accountability Office (GAO) study. (The average U.S. effective tax rate on foreign-source income was around 4 percent.) <7> As the Urban Institute-Brookings Institution Tax Policy Center has explained, such a large differential between tax rates on domestic and foreign income provides strong incentives for firms to shift reported profits from the United States (and other countries with comparable tax rates) to low-tax countries. <8>

This tilt in the tax code in favor of foreign investments has important revenue implications: the deferral provision will cost the Treasury $212.8 billion over the 2012-2016 period, according to the Office of Management and Budget, making it one of the single largest tax expenditures in the corporate tax code. As policymakers begin work on base-broadening tax reforms, they should remember that the result of leaving these and other international tax expenditures untouched — let alone expanding them, as some have proposed — would be higher tax rates on domestic investments than would otherwise need to be the case.

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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 11:42 AM
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4. If Dan Coats is a supporter of the bill it has to be a bad bill.
Edited on Sat Sep-24-11 11:43 AM by LiberalFighter
former lobbyist for foreign companies/countries
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 12:30 PM
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5. It strikes me that there should be a nearly infinite number of brackets, not fewer.
Progressive taxation could follow an exponential curve, with every taxpayer of different incomes paying a different rate: as income increases, taxation rate increases. The actual number of "brackets" would not be infinite, but probably limited to a number as large as the number of filers.

This seems to be the only way to balance the fact that poor people are disproportionately affected by State sales taxes and fees, and county and city fees, which are all various shades of regressive taxation. It seems to be in vogue for the right to claim that poor people pay no taxes, when those poor people do pay sales taxes and various fixed fees.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 04:22 PM
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9. This is what I would think too.
Fewer brackets and lower taxes means you lower taxes on the rich more than on the poor.
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 02:05 PM
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6. Makes sense to me n/m
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thelordofhell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 02:15 PM
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7. To hell with the overseas profit tax holiday
If you're not going to tax overseas profits, why would any American country admit any profits that are not overseas anymore? They'll just use Hollywood accounting to totally ignore paying anything at all.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 11:18 AM
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15. I'd like to see a nationwide mortgage payment holiday as compensation for the taxpayer bank bailouts
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 04:21 PM
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8. fewer brackets help wealthy people. Some tax breaks are in support of the middle class.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 05:08 PM
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10. In January, Robert Reich suggested six
including lowering taxes on incomes below $250,000:

    50,000 to $90,000 (cut to 10 percent)
    $90,000 to $150,000 (cut to 20 percent)
    $150,000 to $250,000 (cut to 30 percent)
    $250,000 to $500,000 (increase to 40 percent)
    $500,000 to $5 million (increase to 50 percent)
    $5 million plus (increase to 60 percent)
    Tax capital gains the same as ordinary income.
I don't see lumping people making $500,000 with those making $5 million.

It could be adjusted to look like this:

    50,000 to $90,000 (cut to 10 percent)
    $90,000 to $150,000 (cut to 20 percent)
    $150,000 to $250,000 (cut to 30 percent)
    $250,000 to $500,000 (no change)
    $500,000 to $1 million (increase to 45 percent)
    $1 million to $5 million (increase to 50 percent)
    $5 million plus (increase to 60 percent)
    Tax capital gains the same as ordinary income


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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 07:45 PM
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12. I'd be somewhere between the two...
in that I feel strongly that taxes on incomes over $250K should increase across the board so that $250K-500K no-change is a no-deal for me. I think you're right about more brackets in the over $500K segment though.

Cap gains are income...just treating them as such would simplify the tax code.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 09:01 PM
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13. Except Wyden's proposal is closer to Simpson Bowles than to Reich.
Edited on Sat Sep-24-11 09:04 PM by Mass
As for Obama's, I was encouraged when I heard him speak, and then, I heard the press conference with Geithner and he sounded more like Simpson.

I have a lot of problems with Suskind's book, but when listening to Geithner, my feeling was that he may have been spot on concerning Geithner.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 06:26 PM
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11. Wyden is upstream without a paddle on this.
Cutting corporate taxes AT ALL won't help the budget, won't create jobs, and just plays into the Republican's hand that taxes are bad.

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blueclown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 09:09 PM
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14. Lower the "official" corporate tax rate, increase the effective corporate tax rate.
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 12:43 PM
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16. More Supply Side BS from a Dem! How sickeing!
Any Dem pushing this bovine excrement should be primaryed!!
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 09:09 AM
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18. i hear gary's got a lot of free time on his hands...
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 01:19 PM
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17. I'm surprised Wyden Is Part Of This, Although I May Be Missing Something.... HOWEVER
I have NEVER seen tax regulations upheld even when passed as a LAW! They ALWAYS find ways to screw the pooch in some way or another.

IMO, tax reform hasn't ever really worked. I'm NOT saying I support a flat tax or taxing that doesn't allow ANY deductions etc., but I AM saying that I honestly feel that this country is incapable of making a law where taxes are fair and equal for all. The rich and monied will always find a way to throw a monkey wrench into the mess.

SOMETHING must be done, but lowering THEIR taxes seems to be playing into their hands ONCE AGAIN!

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