A Million Teenagers have gotten health care under Obama's plan !!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

1M young adults get health coverage under law

By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR
Associated Press


WASHINGTON (AP) -- Two new surveys find a big drop in the number of young adults without health insurance since last year - and President Barack Obama's overhaul is getting credit instead of criticism.

A government health statistics survey released Wednesday finds nearly 1 million more adults ages 19-25 gained insurance in the first three months of this year. Separately, a Gallup survey also out Wednesday reports that the share of adults 18-25 without coverage dropped from 28 percent last fall to 24.2 percent by this summer.

The health care law allows adult children to stay on their parents' plan until they turn 26. Coverage for young adults is increasing at a time when a weak economy is leaving more workers uninsured. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius says that shows the law is working.

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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_HEALTH_OVERHAUL_YOUNG_ADULTS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-09-21-12-00-36

[Cool Logic]

1. Inasmuch as teenagers require very little health care...

that is not much of an accomplishment.

Now, providing health care for a million senior citizens, would be something worth hanging your hat on.

[vaberella]

3. Don't all Seniors in the US who are citizens get health care?

That's the point of medicare. Further more these were a million teenagers who didn't have health care and now do. I don't think this is anything to scoff at.

[FloriTexan]

6. That's right. Why give teenagers health insurance...

I mean what could go wrong with them. We make them get born and then they should be able to take care of themselves.

:sarcasm:

[young but wise]

9. +1

:crazy:

[phleshdef]

12. Considering that LBJ took care of that decades ago, I'm not sure what your point is.

[Carnage251]

20. 1 million adults ages 19-25 gaining insurance is not much of an accomplishment?

Apparently you have never heard of Medicare.

[vaberella]

21. Marginalizing any of Obama's accompolishments by belittling the accompolishment is common.

I'm getting fed up with it. I had another person state---after I listed the many bills and acts Obama pass for women's rights--they were "token." So they weren't worth anything really. As though all the women who fought, were fighting for something worthless. That post was doing the same thing.

[Carolina]

41. being covered by parents'

health insurance is not the same as having Medicare! It's not as if the ACA offered medicare to 19-25 year olds. Coverage by parents' insurance is fine if the parents are employed and have insurance! Moreover as I said downthread, HEALTH INSURANCE DOES NOT EQUAL HEALTH CARE

[Zoeisright]

23. BullSHIT.

How the hell can you say that? Any links or actual facts to back up that statement?

This is a HUGE accomplishment. And your denigrating it is sick.

[Arkana]

27. Just because they don't draw on the system

doesn't mean that getting them insured is "not much of an accomplishment". It is, in fact, a very BIG accomplishment.

[YellowCosmicSun]

32. You can't stand it when Obama succeeds, can you?

[ZombieHorde]

37. LOL! So absurd. nt

[vaberella]

2. Well I'll be your first rec and but second post.

I was supportive of this health care initiative even when I knew I wasn't getting everything I would like. I'm glad my support is being rewarded where there so many people who are benefiting from this plan. From the news last week of the man who was happy of the HCR, to this news about the extension of coverage. It's doing it's job. Thanks Mr. President.

[Phx_Dem]

4. Waiting for Progressives to take credit for this too.

:eyes:

[jberryhill]

5. That's not what the article says

The article says that X number of teens are covered, who wouldn't have been.

That doesn't say diddly about how many received "health care".

My 20 year old son, included in that number, hasn't needed any "health care" in ages.

[JuniperLea]

7. If you have health insurance...

Your son is elegible for it as well, through age 26. That is what this is about. We've already seen many threads here from grateful parents who have been able to insure their kids through this new part of the law.

If X number of teens are covered, they are eligible to receive health care. If they don't need it, good for them.

[jberryhill]

13. Yes, having a child in that class, I perfectly well understand

Now comes the reading comprehension test...

Read the subject line of the OP.

My son has not received a dime's worth of "health care" as a consequence of the law.

I do get to pay premiums for his insurance until he is 26.

The OP suggests that a large number of teens have received "health care" as a consequence of the law. That is not supported by the facts in the OP itself.

What has happened is that insurance companies have collected a lot of money for a population which, relative to other age groups, generally does not need "health care" any too often.

[JuniperLea]

14. I see... Parsing words is more important than substance...

I should have known.

How fortunate you are that you have a healthy son... not everyone is so fortunate... many a youngster have health issues that would otherwise ruin them financially had this health care bill not been passed.

But go ahead and be the word choice police... I'm sure it's quite satisfying to belittle and bemoan.

Most of us understood and didn't feel the need to condescend to the OP.

[jberryhill]

I am not belittling, bemoaning, or condescending here

There is a distinction between being eligible for insurance and receiving health care.

You are satisfied with a system in which corporations are going to make a raft of profit.

That's fine. It's a perfectly decent opinion to hold, and it is one to which you are entitled.

If we were interested in people receiving "health care", we would have a "health care" system. We don't have one, didn't get one, and aren't going to get one.

But a lot of people are going to get fabulously rich, and will entrench the existing interests opposing an actual health care system.

Maybe you think it is quibbling to point that out.

I don't. And I suppose it is simply because I am a horrible person.

The subject line is factually incorrect and misleading.

[JuniperLea]

17. Yeah, go on and move that goalpost...

From my POV, you were belittling the OP's choice of words.

We aren't going to get one? Ahhh... I see... there's that old crystal ball again... just like the one you used to predict that your son doesn't need health care benefits. I hope you are right... not all young adults are so fortunate. All those covered should get check ups at the very least.

"But a lot of people are going to get fabulously rich, and will entrench the existing interests opposing an actual health care system."

Yeah, that's why insurance company CEO's are shitting bricks... and spent millions to fight the current plan. Sure.

[jberryhill]

18. Pointing out a factual error is not "belittling"

It is factually incorrect.

Your other observations - that I somehow have a "crystal ball" make no sense. Yes, my son could get sick tomorrow, but that has nothing to do with a misleading factual inaccuracy in the subject line of the OP.

Yes, everyone who can afford to pay the premiums can insure their child until age 26. The rest, as far as you are concerned, can just drop dead.

I have not "moved a goalpost". My understanding is that Obama would veto a bill which did not contain a public option. That is what he said, and it is what he did not do.

I will again contribute the federal maximum to Obama's campaign and I will again vote for him. The first of those things, I am sure you likely did not do to get him elected in the first place.

That does not mean that I have turned off the critical thinking function of my brain.

The number of uninsured has increased. That does not motivate me to celebrate that the single healthiest demographic has better options. Deal with it.

[stevenleser]

24. Good try, but you are arguing with someone who really has no point. n/t

[JuniperLea]

25. I'm seeing that...

Seems to me there's a lot less effort involved if the goalposts remain stationary.

[jberryhill]

30. Perhaps you might tell me where I set the goalposts the first time

If you are not willing to treat other humans as individuals, and you wish to imagine that I had not expected some form of universal coverage, then you are entitled to live in your world where people are simply interchangeable dolls in your mental playhouse.

There are more uninsured in this country now than there have ever been.

Yes, it is true that a subpopulation of those least in need as a group are marginally better covered. That is at the expense of a larger number of others who are no longer covered.

27 years old? Go drop dead. Yay!

I know! I'll tell him not to get any older. Some goalposts, like him turning 27, move all by themselves.

[Arkana]

28. I don't give a shit how much he's received--he's covered, and that should be enough.

Why is everyone pissing on what should be treated as a fairly significant accomplishment?

Oh, wait, that's right. I remember now. Everything Obama does is bad, even if it's good.

[jberryhill]

31. Because he is approaching 27

My 28 year old daughter, of course, out of luck.

I'll pretend she doesn't exist, just to make you happy.

She can do a good job of that herself, since she is blind.

Party on, dude.

[Pisces]

8. Good information!!

[JNinWB]

10. Encourage the insured 18-25 year olds to get annual check-ups.

They don't have to NEED health care. Annual physicals may uncover chronic issues at a much earlier age.

Diabetes
Hypo-thyroidism
High blood pressure
Sinus/ allergies
Depression/anxiety

[JuniperLea]

16. Very well said!

Yes, this is something everyone should do at an early adult age.

[Number23]

11. A fabulously great start!

[JuniperLea]

15. And there are many more advantages down the pike...

It was the Pubbie obstructionism that has caused the delay in getting these bill line items moving. We would have been so much farther ahead of the game had the bill not met with so much resistance.

This is, as you said, a fabulous start!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

22. thanks for a positive note ! phew...nt

[Exilednight]

19. Yes, but overall 900,000 more people are now without health insurance over

the previous year, according to the census bureau. If coverage for teenagers went up by 1million, it had to be offset by another demographic, so that means that 1.9 million adults lost their health insurance in the past year.

People are focused at looking upon certain demographics, but the fact is that it's the overall number that really matters. And if you want to really focus on demographics, then think about this, the older you get the more you need health insurance.

[YellowCosmicSun]

33. No real proof, just a powerful urge to deny that Obama did something right.

[Exilednight]

34. Are you saying that the Census Bureau lied? n/t

[ThomCat]

26. How many adults have lost health care in this economy?

I'll bet it's more than a million.

These are mostly older adults who need health care a hell of a lot more urgently.

[jberryhill]

29. Shush

We'll have none of that here!

[ZombieHorde]

38. You are right, but I don't see how that diminishes this accomplishment.

Getting people's kids insured is one real step towards undoing the damage caused by Republicans.

[Mr Deltoid]

35. When do the other 99.7% of the population see a benefit?

?

[ZombieHorde]

39. This helps a lot more people than just those teens.

When you have a family of your own, this will become obvious to you.

[Mr Deltoid]

42. I have already raised my family

I am taking a triple therapy regime for hepatitis C. My co-pay on just one of the drugs is $24k for 12 weeks. That is WITH insurance.

Yeah, it is obvious to me.

[ZombieHorde]

43. If you have raised children, then the benefit of having them insured should be obvious to you. nt

[Mr Deltoid]

44. Your avoiding my point

What about the other 99.7% of the population who are not among those million teenagers?

I have insurance yet I am totally screwed, how is that possible after HCR passed?

[ZombieHorde]

45. I am sorry you are have extremely difficult health and financial problems.

Republicans have not made life any easier for the vast majority of Americans.

I know there is a lot more work to be done, but insuring more teenagers helps whole families, not just the individual teens.

I have insurance yet I am totally screwed, how is that possible after HCR passed?

Why do you think HCR is too weak to help you? My guess is Republican opposition. We saw them cheering for the death of the sick.

[Mr Deltoid]

46. It does not help me because there are no provisions to stop price gouging...

...until 2014. It tells insurere, 'you can gouge your customers to death for four years, but then after that you have to play nice.' Insurers reacted by gouging the country with naked glee.

What the hell were they thinking when they wrote this piece of crap? Jaysus.

[bvar22]

36. This is wonderful news ...

...for those parents wealthy enough to BUY Health Insurance for their children.
The UPPER Middle Class & The RICH should be grateful.
Their children will have access to Health Care.

For the unwashed Underclasses who are unemployed or underemployed,
its the same old shit.
If you can't afford the Buy In, your kids gotta die.


Thanks.

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You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.

Solidarity!
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[Carolina]

40. Health care?

or health insurance! Two very different things.

Being covered by parents' insurance until 26 may be a good thing but as we all know, having insurance doesn't insure health care when the rates, co-pays and deductibles remain high. And with the the economy and joblessness, what happens when those adult kids turn 27 and can't find a job or even when employed cannot afford insurance.

Affordable Care (emphasis on the word CARE) Act my ass!