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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 08:57 PM
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CBS/NYT poll: 64 percent of Obama voters think his performance in office has been as they expected
CBS/NYT poll

Obama’s Job Performance So Far

Total
About as expected 55%
Worse than expected 34%
Better than expected 8%

Among those who say they voted for Barack Obama in 2008, 64% think his performance in office has been as they expected. 21% say it has been worse, while 13% say it has been better.


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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:01 PM
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1. So what?
Most voters think Obama's doing a bad job as President: that's what counts.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:04 PM
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4. Actually
"Most voters think Obama's doing a bad job as President: that's what counts."
...no. That number includes Republicans and some Independents who will not vote for him.

Here: the vast majority of Democrats approve (78 percent)
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:06 PM
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5. Well
I still don't understand your point. Are you saying that only Democrats vote for President?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:08 PM
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6. Well,
"Well I still don't understand your point. Are you saying that only Democrats vote for President? "

...I think you understand my point, which is why the sudden concern for what Republicans think.


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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:32 PM
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12. You repeat others's comments in your replies & often post lengthy, wordy quotes in your replies.
Reminds me of students assigned a specific length paper/essay re number of words. They write with the word count foremost in their "minds".
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:35 PM
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13. Well,
"Reminds me of students assigned a specific length paper/essay re number of words. They write with the word count foremost in their "minds".

...thanks for sharing that anecdote. It was very interesting.

Now, did you have a point about the OP?

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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 10:07 PM
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17. He is as disliked as Bush was.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 10:11 PM
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19. By whom?
Tea Partiers, obviously. Some of you here and on the likes of FDL and DKos, check.

But the dislike is not as widespread as you might like to believe. His personal likeability is high despite the problems of the job.

Congress polls far lower in job approval.

Perspective is helpful.
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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 06:13 AM
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30. I'm pretty sure that we're not living on the same planet.
But keep trying.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:46 PM
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15. No, most people on this site think he is doing a bad job. Look at other sites and they love him.
This is the only site where I regularly see disdain for the man.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 10:06 PM
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16. Can you point out one of the sites whose denizens love him?
I'm curious, thanks.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 03:14 AM
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28. Face Book and the numerous people I have friended and their links
I can't think of them off of the top of my head but it is a love fest for Obama over there.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 10:07 PM
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18. Most people in the country think he is doing a bad job. look anywhere.
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YellowCosmicSun Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 07:18 PM
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40. Misery loves company, huh?
When you hate something, doesn't it feel like the whole world hates it, too?
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YellowCosmicSun Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 07:17 PM
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39. It's because this site has become the refuge of those who despise Obama.
But they won't be able to hide here forever.
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YellowCosmicSun Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 07:15 PM
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38. Why make up lies just to support YOUR position, Manny?
Try telling the truth. That's what counts.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 02:42 AM
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43. Either show that I've lied, or show that you have
good manners and apologize to me.

Thanks.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:03 PM
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2. 64% of Obama voters. So 34% of us aren't happy with his
performance and then you have the republicans and the survey doesn't mention independents. I don't think it's good news.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:17 PM
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7. You obviously didn't bother reading the rest of the post. n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:04 PM
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3. And 13% say it's been BETTER than expected. K&R for the 77%! n/t
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:18 PM
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8. Unrec
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:20 PM
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9. Boo! n/t
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:28 PM
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10. edited
Edited on Sat Sep-17-11 10:18 PM by Skip Intro
I misread the OP, however, I don't think losing 20% of those who voted for Obama in 2008 is reason to cheer.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:29 PM
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11. .
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:38 PM
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14. .
Edited on Sat Sep-17-11 09:40 PM by Skip Intro
My mistake, edited my post.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 10:38 PM
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20. thats a bit surprising considering the barrage of Obama bashing we get here on a daily basis.
suggesting DU doesnt reflect reality.. as I expected.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 10:42 PM
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21. Hate is the new love, doncha know? Some people just can't seem to get enough of it.
We know better. So does the WH. ;)
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 11:22 PM
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24. So true
In the world outside the bubble, President Obama isn't anywhere NEAR comparison to GWB.

Ridiculous.
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Mr Deltoid Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 10:44 PM
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22. Wow the spin is getting vague
Issues are so passe anyway...
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 11:19 PM
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23. Um
"Wow the spin is getting vague"

...what spin? The OP shows actual poll results.

"Issues are so passe anyway..."

Interested:

CBS/NYT poll shows extremely high approval for elements of the President's jobs proposal

CBS/NYT poll: 71 percent support both tax increases and spending cuts

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Mr Deltoid Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 12:05 AM
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25. The OP
Edited on Sun Sep-18-11 12:07 AM by Mr Deltoid
If you cant baffle em with bullshit, dazzle em with a bunch of unrelated links and stuff.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 07:24 PM
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41. Well
Edited on Sun Sep-18-11 07:30 PM by ProSense
"If you cant baffle em with bullshit, dazzle em with a bunch of unrelated links and stuff."

...if you have no valid counter point, drivel will do!

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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 12:38 AM
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26. I can say the same about George Bush. So what.
I expected to be underwhelmed.

I haven't yet been disappointed.

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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 12:58 AM
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27. well, that's kind of meaningless
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 03:16 AM
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29. K&R
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hulka38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 06:38 AM
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31. For every one Obama voter who thinks his performance
is better than expected, there are more than four who think his performance is worse than expected.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 08:11 AM
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32. count me in that 64%
he is performing exactly as I expected him to.

poorly.
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great white snark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 08:52 AM
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33. You expected a poor performance since day one?
Not me, I was ready to be rid of the last 8 years of poor performance.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 09:54 AM
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34. I expected that he would push his bipartisan crap from day one
because that's what he said he would do. I also expected he would be, as President, a right leaning centrist Democrat, ie; Rockefeller Republican - because that's what he'd said he was, for anyone paying attention.

He has fulfilled my expectations - the one area where he has surprised me is in his leadership and negotiating skills - where he starts from a position of weakness and progressively gets worse. He's a progressive! LOL!

I had expected a bit less naivete than he's shown, however - though with his obvious lack of experience coming into office I suppose that shouldn't have been a surprise. What has surprised me is his seeming inability to change direction as the circumstances changed. He was handed the opportunity to at least make an argument for fundamental change, especially with the economy - and the best he has managed is to kick the can down the road.

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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 10:51 AM
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35. I am in the same position as you are
but I also recognize Obama's plans are ambitious and require four more years to fully realize (eg Obamacare).
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great white snark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 11:28 AM
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37. I wouldn't have expected much from a weak, inexperienced right leaning centrist either.
Suffice it to say we disagree on who the man is and what he has accomplished.

Hopefully there are other Democrats who have earned your support for '12.

:patriot:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 10:55 AM
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36. I would have said as expected, but then didn't realize
how difficult these Congresses can be, so better than expected given what he got out of these Congresses, especially the 111th. I did not realize how much one Senator could keep things from happening.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 08:06 PM
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42. it took Cheney & Bush 8 years to get us here, Obama has only 3 years invested...
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 04:36 AM
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44. it's about what I expected. Like Clinton before him - center-right on economics and foreign policy
moderately liberal on social issues. This has now been the Democratic Party modus operandi for more than the last three decades. Anyone who was expecting something different was engaging in wishful thinking and not paying attention. And to say the least they were not asking themselves why Wall Street interest were investing so much in him and why the corporate controlled media was pushing the idea of his candidacy so enthusiastically. It is reasonable for any progressive to be disappointed in the direction American politics has taken - It was not dealing with reality to expect Obama to be something he is not and has never been. Perhaps it sounds a bit harsh. But progressives who are disappointed in Obama really have only themselves to blame for not paying attention and engaging in non-reality based wishful thinking. Those who are now calling for a real progressive with broad appeal to run in the primaries are a bit to late. They should said that in 2008.
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