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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 10:15 AM
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Wouldn't it be great if Elizabeth Warren wins the seat for senator, does
Edited on Thu Sep-15-11 10:17 AM by Cal33
a good job, then runs for the presidency in 2016? She'd be just
making it agewise, too. And if she makes it, I predict the first
female president in this country will be a great one.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 10:24 AM
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1. I'm sorry...If she wins, which I'm not holding my breath on....I want her to stay in the Senate.
I want her to stay in the Senate seat for as long as possible to insure that another Brown doesn't take over, or fuck it---Brown himself.
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 10:32 AM
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2. Elizabeth Warren already has the name-recognition for the presidency in
2016. And aren't there good Dems. in Mass. to take her place as senator?
I must say I was surprised when they elected Romney for governor, though.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 01:24 PM
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10. Massachusetts is not Boston
Edited on Thu Sep-15-11 01:25 PM by Recursion
And even in Boston, this was not all that long ago:



Note Faneuil Hall in the background...

The Mass Democratic party has some serious corruption problems. Everything from bribery to embezzlement to a former state house speaker hiding Whitey Bulger (who was his brother) from the FBI. And he's not as corrupt as the guy who just got run out of town on a rail. Mass will vote D for President for the foreseeable future, but Warren's run is by no means a shoe-in, and frankly I'm worried about her prospects.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 09:12 PM
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23. Example - Just last week,
former Speaker Sal Dimasi, sentenced to 8 years for corruption - taking bribes - and today his pension was taken away form him.

I'm just hoping the primary is not knock down, drag out, so that whoever wins will not be badly damaged.

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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 07:53 AM
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25. And the primary isn't until September of 2012
If the primary gets bruising, the winner will only have seven weeks to campaign.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 07:50 PM
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21. If there were...why aren't they running? Really now.
Secondly, Elizabeth Warren seems to me like a woman who wants to get things done. She'd have more success and really take the battle to Republican ideals not as a President---but as a Senator. This is one of the reasons why I think Sanders is so functional as a Senator.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 10:40 AM
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3. Why are you not "holding your breath?" I think she has a great change to win!
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 01:20 PM
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9. Because she's polling behind Brown, has no political or campaigning experience...
...and Massachusetts has a history of not electing women to statewide office.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 02:17 PM
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14. She just announced yesterday and you're counting polls already?
Wow! Talk about wanting instant gratification!

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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 02:34 PM
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15. She's been unofficially in the race for a while
The poll gap has been consistent. I hope it improves.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 07:57 PM
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22. You do...I don't. Because you like her and this board likes her doesn't mean she has a chance.
Actually it means more of the reverse.
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PragmaticLiberal Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 11:10 AM
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4. I like Elizabeth but what in her background screams "president?"


Lets just focus on getting her elected to the Senate first and go from there.....:)
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 11:33 AM
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6. As of now, she is the perfect candidate
She hasn't taken a position on most issues, so people can just assume that she agrees with them.
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 12:18 PM
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7. She is for protecting the consumer from being taken advantage of by
the corporate business world, and has come up with a way of
how to do it - a way which has been accepted and adopted by
the White House - and she is perfectly willing to enforce it.
This alone, says a great deal about her and her values.
She is for all of the American people, and her intelligence
is beyond dispute.

How many presidents in the past four decades (experienced
or not) have shown even a modicum of these qualities?
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 01:28 PM
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11. And there's the DU theory of "governing by intention" showing up...
The realities of the legislative process, the political process, and logistical implementation of policies are all supposed to disappear before the will and intent of a leader (assuming he or she has "backbone" and is willing to "fight").
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 04:29 PM
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17. Yes, you are right. "The POTUS' is the most powerful man in the world, is an
over-exaggeration on the part of the journalists from ages ago.
The reality is that s/he has to satisfy so many people before
things can get done. But some are better at getting things done
their way than others. It's very relative, of course.
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 11:25 AM
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5. She's awesome. Nt
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 12:47 PM
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8. No, no more 1st term Senators
n/t
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 01:37 PM
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12. Actually, we did pretty damn well with exactly that....
even if you don't want to face it, because it might disturb your world.

I'd suggest you try and not look....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x772937
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 02:36 PM
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16. You don't understand
Elizabeth Warren as a one-term Senator is a less appealing choice than Matt Damon!!!

:rofl:



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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 07:22 PM
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19. *snort
o yeah, almost forgot about all the threads on: Damon for Pres!


how could I?

tee hee
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 06:11 PM
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18. Until it came to the actual "governing" part; then we didn't do so well. (NT)
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 02:15 PM
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13. Better than recent governors from Texas any day
I think President Obama is doing quite well considering the banshee screeching opposition he has in Washington and from permanently disgruntled people.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 07:39 PM
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20. If you want her to win contribute to her at this link
Edited on Thu Sep-15-11 07:44 PM by Vincardog
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CoffinEd Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 09:21 PM
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24. She has a chance
Martha ran a bad campaign. That's how Scottie got in. Plus, he had all the radio jocks on his side. Listening to some of the shows was like listening to a looping campaign promo for Brown.

Another candidate of interest is Setti Warren (no relation to Elizabeth). He's the young African-American mayor of Newton, MA. I live one town over but go to church in Newton.

Not sure if Mike Capuano will be running, but I think he would be a formidable challenger as well. Bottom line is that Scottie must go.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 08:23 AM
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26. Capuano is not running, but Khazei is
I worked for him in 2010 and I still support him in this primary, though I'm not a bay stater anymore.
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