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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 11:28 PM
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The Republican Health Care Blunder (they managed to turn even Evan Bayh into a "raging partisan")
Bipartisanship is now finding something both Bernie Sanders and Lieberman can agree to - Republicans are completely irrelevant (if only Revolting Joe was too)

The Republican Health Care Blunder

The United States is on the doorstep of comprehensive health care reform. It's a staggering achievement, about which I'll have more to say later. but the under-appreciated thing that strikes me at the moment is that it never would have happened if the Republican Party had played its cards right.

At the outset of this debate, moderate Democrats were desperate for a bipartisan bill. They were willing to do almost anything to get it, including negotiate fruitlessly for months on end. We can't know for sure, but Democrats appeared willing to make enormous substantive concessions to win the assent of even a few Republicans.
A few GOP defectors could have lured a chunk of Democrats to sign something far more limited than what President Obama is going to sign. And remember, it would have taken only one Democrat to agree to partial reform in order to kill comprehensive reform. I can easily imagine a scenario where Ben Nelson refused to vote for anything larger than, say, a $400 billion bill that Chuck Grassley and a couple other Republicans were offering.

But Republicans wouldn't make that deal. The GOP leadership put immense pressure on all its members to withhold consent from any health care bill.
The strategy had some logic to it: If all 40 Republicans voted no, then Democrats would need 60 votes to succeed, a monumentally difficult task. And if they did succeed, the bill would be seen as partisan and therefore too liberal, too big government. The spasm of anti-government activism over the summer helped lock the GOP into this strategy -- no Republican could afford to risk the wrath of Tea Partiers convinced that any reform signed by Obama equaled socialism and death panels.

-snip-
And so Democrats found themselves all alone. It seems to be around August when the party realized that bipartisan dealmaking was not at hand, and it had to pass a bill or face the same calamity as it did in 1994. Politically speaking, there were no good options left, but passing a bill offered the least bad option. The unified partisan front of the Republican Party forced the Democrats to adopt their own unified partisan front, something that appeared impossible as recently as this last summer. This passage from the New York Times is telling:

Faced with Republican opposition that many Democrats saw as driven more by politics than policy disagreements, Senate Democrats in recent days gained new determination to bridge differences among themselves and prevail over the opposition.

Lawmakers who attended a private meeting between Mr. Obama and Senate Democrats at the White House on Tuesday pointed to remarks there by Senator Evan Bayh, Democrat of Indiana, as providing some new inspiration.

Mr. Bayh said that the health care measure was the kind of public policy he had come to Washington to work on, according to officials who attended the session, and that he did not want to see the satisfied looks on the faces of Republican leaders if they succeeded in blocking the measure.


Evan Bayh! When you've turned the somnolent, relentlessly centrist Indiana Senator into a raging partisan, you've really done something. The Republicans eschewed a halfway compromise and put all their chips on an all or nothing campaign to defeat health care and Obama's presidency. It was an audacious gamble. They lost. In the end, they'll walk away with nothing. The Republicans may gain some more seats in 2010 by their total obstruction, but the substantive policy defeat they've been dealt will last for decades.

http://www.tnr.com/blog/the-plank/the-republican-health-care-blunder
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 11:30 PM
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1. Wow, if they've managed to piss Bayh off that much the Republicans
must have ratcheted up the "spoiled 3-year-old" rhetoric quite a bit.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 11:33 PM
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2. BULLSHIT! Bayh is a corporate whore through and through
His whore of a wife sits on the board of WellPoint.

We are quite familiar with Evan's line of bullshit!
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 11:39 PM
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3. This bill is a Republican's wet dream!
As Mr. Potter said on Countdown, this bill gives the insurance companies everything they wanted and more. What is so amazing is that the Republicans made the Democrats pass this abomination!
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Bodhi BloodWave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 11:44 PM
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4. have you read the bill?
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 01:23 AM
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6. Yes I have
It gives the insurance companies everything they asked for.

Bottom Line--They get the gold mine and we get the shaft.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 01:26 AM
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7. What part of the bill reads that way?
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 01:37 AM
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8. I predict there will be no response to your post.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 01:39 AM
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10. real details are a biotch, ain't they?
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 01:56 PM
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15. Hours later still no response
Imagine that.
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 01:49 AM
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12. You must be psycho - err, psychic!
:silly:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 01:39 AM
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9. Stop asking questions!!
Edited on Sun Dec-20-09 01:44 AM by HughMoran
That's the feeling I'm getting as I ask people to support their heavily anti-Obama positions. Anger seems to be blocking out actual arguments.

Look at how several became unglued when I simply pointed out a false assumption here -> http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=7277664&mesg_id=7277710
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 12:11 AM
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5. you lost me at "staggering achievement." nt
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Garam_Masala Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 01:47 AM
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11. Repugs have won BIG with Reid's bill
because with added customers through mandates the for profit private
insurers and NO LIMITS ON HOW HIGH THEY CAN RAISE YOUR RATES, their
profits will take a jump skywards.
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levander Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 02:41 AM
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13. There was a bipartisan bill with universal coverage...
It was Democratic leadership who decided not to go that way, but go a partisan route instead.

Read about the bipartisan effort behind it here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lanny-davis/the-healthy-americans-act_b_301962.html">Click

More from Lanny Davis on it: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lanny-davis/the-wyden---bennett-healt_b_293117.html">Click http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lanny-davis/a-plan-for-universal-cove_b_309513.html">Click

All this blaming the Republicans, if we don't hold the Democrats responsible for what they do, they're just gonna act like the weasels they did on this health care bill forever. Have to hold them accountable.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 03:56 AM
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14. Great article at the link! KnR.
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