Perry Got Bashed For The Only Two Reasonable Stands He Took As Governor

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Allowing the children of illegal immigrants to attend college and inoculating young women against the human pappiloma virus.

Wow, the Tea Baggers are a toxic element in the nation's bloodstream.

[Ian David]

1. I agree, but the vaccination was done for the wrong reason.

I don't think Perry gives a shit about women and HPV. He did it to help a big campaign donor.

[DrDan]

2. do you think the vaccination should have been voluntary? or a mandate for all 6th graders?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. We Vaccinate Against All Kinds Of Things

Including mumps, measles, rubella, diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, and polio. The hangup is that unlike the other aforementioned diseases hpv is transmitted via intercourse.

[Honeycombe8]

5. Yep. That's a pretty big thing...innoculating a child from a disease caused by sex....

and having to explain it, or assuming the child will become sexually active fairly soon (in other words...you show you don't trust the kid).

Besides, very few people get that cancer and very few girls in that age range have sex. To CHOOSE to get it makes sense. To FORCE someone to get it, like it's some big plague or rises to the level of polio...that's nonsense.

Don't forget...there are side effects to EVERY medication and vaccine. No exceptions. In fact, the reason the medication is being used? That is merely ONE of the side effects.

[truedelphi]

15. Thank you for some rational thinking

You do a good job of representing those of us who want the vaccination process to be sensible, and used against disease that a person is exposed to.

Young girls do not have sex.

If you think your kid is active sexually, then get the vaccine.

And this particular vaccine has not been around long enough to really let us know the dangers and risks that it poses.

[Exilednight]

18. The reason it is given to 10 and 11 year olds is due to the fact that

that is the age where the immune system goes through massive change and has the best chance of taking hold and working down the line. Scientifically, this age range is the best time to receive such a inoculation.

It should, also, be pointed out that Perry did put in place an opt out measure for parents.

My one issue with what Perry did is the way he went about it. An executive order is not the right mechanism, it should have gone through the state legislature.

[DrDan]

9. yes we do - some are voluntary and some are required

I assume you feel this should be among the latter.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. I Am Ambivalent About It. If It Was My Daughter I Would Let Her Be Vaccinated.

It's more interesting that is one of the issues the Tea Baggers choose to use to bash him.

[DrDan]

11. it is right that you have a choice and make the decision - to have Perry make that decision for my

daughter is absolutely wrong.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. At What Age Can A Young Woman Choose To Be Vaccinated Without Her Parents Permission?

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[DrDan]

13. I guess that would be the "age of consent" for each state - 6th grade is way too early

[Honeycombe8]

3. Wow. I totally disagree about the HPV required shot. That was outrageous.

I live in Texas. It's not that the state WOULD PAY for the shot, if you wanted it. (I'm not sure the shot was free.) It REQUIRED everyone to have very young girls, maybe as young as 10 or 11, get a shot based on the assumption that they would become sexually active soon.

People have the right not to expose their children to talks about sexual diseases, based on the assumption that the kid will do the wrong thing. If a parent wants to have the children innoculated, they can. But to force parents to do that?

Perry said in 1st debate that there was an opt-out. It's wrong to have an opt-out, for one thing. It should be an opt-IN. But my recollection is that there wasn't an opt-out at the beginning. That only came about because of the public outcry about the required shot.

It was such an odd thing for any governor to do. It made no sense. Most kids that age aren't sexually active, and of those who are, most will not get cervical cancer. It was such a weird thing to force people to do. Then it was revealed that he had a close connection with the big pharma company that manufactured the stuff...and, well, it all became clear to everyone.

I hope the American public gets to know the real Perry.

Oh, and Ron Paul was right about Texas taxes. Mine have doubled since Perry took office, just like Ron Paul said his had.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. Would It Have Been More Appropriate If The Girls Were Older?

.

[Honeycombe8]

7. I don't know. I'd have to give that some thought. That wasn't an option...Perry wanted 'em young.

The younger the better. And actually...the younger they are, the less likely they are to need the vaccine. Ironic. All about money.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. I Don't Care About His Motivation

But if there's a vaccination that prevents the virus that causes cervical cancer I fail to see how it's a bad thing.

[Hydra]

16. Here. I think I can break it down for you

I've just invented a vaccine for gall bladder cancer. I'm not sure what the side effects are, but I think it should be compulsory that you vaccinate your child immediately with it.

See any problems with any of that?

[TheWraith]

19. That's a BS argument. Vaccines go through extensive testing.

The "we don't know the side effects!!!" nonsense is simply FUD.

[Hydra]

21. Ah, BS

The FDA routinely drops the ball on normal medicines where big money is involved, and there was HUGE money involved in this particular vaccine.

Trust the drug companies at your peril. They don't have your best interests at heart.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. Is The American Academy Of Pediatrics In The Tank For Big Pharma Too?

If that's the case maybe when our kids get sick we should take them to Dr's. Santorum and Bachman.

Oh, thirty five million young women have been vaccinated for hpv without incident.


As far as Governor Good Hair people can do the right thing for the wrong reason.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. Thirty Five Million Young Women Have Been Vaccinated

With little or no side effects reported.

The Center For Disease Control and The American Academy Of Pediatrics recommend girls be vaccinated for the human pappiloma virus at the ages of eleven and twelve as that is when vaccination is most effective.

I will take the word of these august bodies over the word of Michelle Bachman, Rick Santorum, and some random internet posters.

See any problem with that?

[TheWraith]

20. 10 or 11 is the best time to the immune system to integrate the vaccine.

Furthermore, when exactly do you expect would be appropriate? I'm sure that there are plenty of people who think that 13 or 14 is too young, but the reality is that there's plenty of girls having sexual experiences by that age.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. This Was A Teachable Moment

It forced me to do research on the vaccination and the evidence suggests the vaccination is safe and effective. I learned that thirty five million young women have been vaccinated against it without incident, and that the CDC and the American Academy For Pediatrics recommend vaccination.



IMHO, the campaign against it comes from the same thinking that the campaign against fluoridation comes from.

Mention sex to some folks, especially the premarital kind, and they throw all critical thinking to the wind.

[K8-EEE]

14. The vaccine being available v. MANDATED is the issue nm

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[Ter]

17. I will never support Bilderberg-approved forced vaccination

These people want to reduce world population to 500 million. I don't trust what's in these shots.

[MrsBrady]

22. his requiring inoculation, which was blocked and not passed, was due to BIG BUSINESS LOBBYING

Do not be fooled by Perry.

do a goole search for Rick Perry and Merk or Vaccine, and see what you get

3 rules about Perry you must always understand:

1) It's all about him, he's in it for himself, anything he does must benefit him or his buddies somehow
2) If his lips are moving he's either lying or blowing smoke up your ass
3) His hair will not move due overuse use of hairspray.