Perry is toast

[Laura PourMeADrink]

He is a freakin moron.

For anyone with a whole brain...He said "We done it in Texas"

For anyone with half a brain..He said "Social Security is a ponzi scheme." Idiotic,
since many, many people with half brains are ON Social Security.

Our opponent will be Mittens.

[napi21]

1. I think you're right. Many keep saying he never backs down from

his positions and they admire that. That well may be true, but does he REALLY think he's going to win any votes in FL. with his Ponzi scheme story? Honestly, I almost hope he does win the nomination. He's lost the senior vote, his attitude about capital punishment lost him a number of other votes, and I suspect many indie's just won't vote for another cowboy!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

2. amazingly, he's making Dimson look brilliant! I would give anything

for this guy to win the nomination....anything.

[opihimoimoi]

3. Nope...a flash in the pan...ziittt. not ready for prime time....

[Laura PourMeADrink]

14. after debate...I agree...he's history...fucking idiot redneck nt

[RBInMaine]

24. But the RePUKE primary BASE LLLLLLLLLLLLLOVES "idiot rednecks". It will be Perry.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

43. I hope you're right...but can't see the Repukes PTB allow it..knowing

he couldn't possibly win a general.

Do hope you are right though. I can not think of a single thing other than a Yankees World Series game that would be more entertaining than an Obama Perry Debate.

[jimlup]

4. I think so too

Unless the masters of mankind can't keep the rabble in line.

[flamingdem]

5. Perry for President, c'mon he'd be great (we want him to get the nom) nt

[graywarrior]

6. He was hired to make Romney palatable.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

15. I actually suspected that....makes sense....EXCEPT who would

have coerced him? BushCo supposedly hates him

If Mittens, with his billions, hired him...what's in it for Perry?

Surely, surely, not a VPship?

[flamingdem]

22. Sometimes it's not a conspiracy, it's just a yahoo in cowboy boots w/a huge ego nt

[graywarrior]

34. Kochs?

[Melissa G]

40. That would be my bet. Perry for mitten's VP. n/t

[Laura PourMeADrink]

44. Really? I think a Perry VP would hurt as much as a Palin VP did? nt

[Melissa G]

48. Texas has 38 electoral votes, Alaska has 3.

Perry is an idiot that more folks will vote for because they think it would be good for their state. Can't believe how many people told me that who voted for Dim Son. People who should have known better mind you, not just the usual yahoos.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

45. Besides, didn't you notice the utter disdain and ridicule on Mitten's

face when Perry was talking. At one point it looked like he was thinking..."OMG this is one stupid MF."

[Melissa G]

49. Sorry I missed that on my small computer screen.

With the possible exception of some things Huntsman said, how could Mitten's have had any other expression on his face the entire debate? That was some sad stuff.:crazy:
I might have missed some exchanges, since I took some kitchen/sanity breaks.

[gordianot]

7. I hope the toaster is slow he just dried out a little tonight. nt

[chill_wind]

8. It's being said already that his book will be his demise,

given that he just came out with it less than a year ago. It's not like critics will have to hunt hard or to go way back in his career to dig all his crazy crap skeletons up. He won't be able to claim any of it as ancient history, and he'll have to answer for it in present tense.

"A treasure trove for foes."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/62531.html

Plus. Karl favors Romney. Nobody should underestimate the Rove machinery and the rest of the old crew and all the old bad blood. Even without the benefit of the book. He hasn't been doing all that money raising to see it blown.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

16. okay...maybe Rove got Romney to get Parry to run...makes Mittens

look sane??

[chill_wind]

38. Seems very doubtful Perry would do Rove any such favor

directly, or indirectly, from the reports of their bad blood. I would really doubt cooperation.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-presidential-primary/167723-a-texas-sized-quandary-for-rick-perry

http://articles.latimes.com/print/2011/jun/30/nation/la-na-0630-perry-bush-20110630

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/59687.html

Rove's already attacking him and pointing out the stuff in his book.

Most of all, he doesn't want to see the GOP richies' donar money siphoned off from his American Crossroads Network and start going to Perry's campaign, which reportedly has already started happening.

Plus there was already Bachmann to make Romney look half sane :-)

[eilen]

9. I thought Romney came out ahead as

#1 he has a vocabulary larger than 100 words.

#2 Perry answered many questions saying the same answer 6x

#3 Between the whole "Ponzi scheme" and the awkward embarrassing answer regarding climate change, Perry is one dumb motherfucker.

#4 He did not claim to be a teabagger.


Huntsman sounded saner that the rest but seemed very orange.

[FrenchieCat]

11. Yes, I thought he looked orange too! LOL!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

17. Very funny! Especially orange Huntsman! nt

[scheming daemons]

10. If Republican primary voters weren't batshit insane, our opponent would be Mittens

But since they are, Perry will win.

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[Laura PourMeADrink]

18. who is Jason Voorhees? too lazy to google..nt

[Voice for Peace]

21. "Jason Voorhees is a fictional character from the Friday the 13th series of slasher films."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Voorhees
"Since Friday the 13th Part VI: Jason Lives, filmmakers have given Jason superhuman strength, regenerative powers, and near invulnerability. He has been seen as a sympathetic character, whose motivation for killing has been cited as being driven by the immoral actions of his victims...."

[Enthusiast]

13. But the electorate has been so

thoroughly dummied down that they do not recognize him as a freakin' moron.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

19. I don't want them to...want the repukes to pick him..nt

[Laura PourMeADrink]

20. Don't know why I am happy with Perry being toast. He would be

easy to beat. Maybe I am the moron

[RBInMaine]

23. Nope. No way in hell. The red-meat primary RePukes LOVE Perry and think Mittens is too moderate.

Romney doesn't excite the Puke base, and they HATE his mormonism. It will be Perry, hands down.

[Cosmocat]

28. I don't get how people here don't get that ...

republicans don't think like us ...

Being the biggest lunatic in a field of lunatics is a positive with the Rs right now ...

[Laura PourMeADrink]

46. Ha...so they would rather have Moronism over Mormonism? nt

[bklyncowgirl]

25. That's Texas charm, my friend. Don't forget how the media loved the Shrubster's folksiness.

Inability to speak the English language is not a disqualification for the presidency--not if you're from Texas.

[xxqqqzme]

26. Somebody please, please

pull-leeze convince me there are not a majority of idiots to elect this asshat. I didn't think anyone could be thicker than dum-ya.

[bklyncowgirl]

37. I wish I could. I thought we'd fulfilled H.L. Menkhen's prediction with W but maybe not.

As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

[Scottybeamer70]

27. Scrub the Shrub Imposter!

n/t

[Cosmocat]

29. You do realize this is the REPUBLICAN primary?

What WE think about these things as a negative are very likely a POSITIVE to them ...

Being the biggest, most deranged psychopath in a field of psychopaths is probably a good thing ...

[totodeinhere]

30. His bad grammar is just a part of his shtick. I think that his political advisers

can be credited with that one. He wants to be the "anti-Obama." Obama can come off as professorial sometimes. Perry's advisers want him to be the opposite of that.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

42. i don't know...Many, many people in Texas say "I done it" or "they done it." nt

[Bake]

31. I'm surprised he even had a 2.2 GPA at A&M ...

I done it .. I seen it ..

:rofl:

Bake

[Enrique]

32. I hear RWers bemoan "bad" English from African Americans

like recently, the radio blowhard Dennis Prager played a clip of some black athlete using nonstandard English in an interview, and went on about how it's a discredit to his race, etc.

Well, here's a freaking Governor, running for freaking President, and no one says a peep about him. Is he a discredit to white people?

[Inuca]

33. I hope so, but

it's way to early to tell. I hope Romney is the nominee. I think it would be easier to defeat Perry, but if Obama end up losing, I'd rather have Romney (I was going to type "president" in front of his name, but I just could NOT) than Perry. I do think that Perry would make us think back at the shrubby years with sweet nostalgy, while Romney would most likely be similar to papa Bush, bad but survivable.

[WI_DEM]

35. True, Mittens will use that clip over and over especially in older states like FL & PA

[ClassWarrior]

36. As Fugelsang said this morning, people will RESPECT the fact that George W. Perry...

..."doubled down" on the "Social Security is a ponzi scheme" bullshit - even if they like Social Security. Because people like leaders who stand strong on their values. Remember:

1. What does a political candidate need to do to win voter confidence?
2. What are the traps that cause political candidates to lose credibility among the populace?

The short answer to the first question is that voters must identify with the candidate. Four things come together for this to happen. These things are values, connection, authenticity, and trust. The candidate must talk about values when discussing issues to consciously articulate the concerns that lead to political positions. The candidate must communicate values effectively to connect with people. This requires the speaker to always appear authentic so that they seem to believe what they say. A candidate who talks about values and connects with people in an authentic way will build trust, which encourages voters to select them over other candidates.

The second question can only be answered by understanding a few discoveries from the cognitive sciences about the human mind. It is not simply a matter of the policies a candidate supports. The merits of one policy over another will not win the hearts and minds of supporters who are looking for a leader that resonates with their hopes and protects them from their fears. No, what people look for in a leader is a moral connection...

(From framing guru George Lakoff...)

http://www.cognitivepolicyworks.com/resource-center/thinking-points/chapter-1-winning-and-losing

NGU.

[totodeinhere]

39. So you are basing your bold prediction on one debate?

Come on now. By next spring when they will be seriously involved with the primary process this one debate will be long forgotten. For the record, I doubt if Perry will get the nomination either, but it's too early to know for sure and we certainly can't make any definitive conclusions from one debate.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

41. Nope. Last night was his national stage...the first time the whole

world (political world) saw the guy. He showed didn't/doesn't have what it takes.

He was a deer in headlights most of the time. (this could change)

He showed he's a redneck and an anti-intellectual (this WILL NOT change)

He doesn't have it. And months and months are not going to change that.

Mittens will get it (unless some powerhouse moderate jumps in).

[and-justice-for-all]

47. Shrub was a fucking moron too and he was WH resident for 8

long and destructive years.

[Aristus]

50. Amen. I'll pour you a drink for that one.

Here's to running against the Mittster! :toast: