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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 07:41 AM
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POTUS shows some fight in Detroit (updated)
Edited on Tue Sep-06-11 08:27 AM by ProSense

POTUS shows some fight in Detroit

By Steve Benen

President Obama recognized Labor Day by speaking at an AFL-CIO event at a GM plant in Detroit, and the White House billed the event as helping set the stage for Thursday’s Joint Session speech. If that’s true, there’s cause for some optimism about what we’ll hear in the address.

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Obama, appearing rather fired up, spoke at some length about the importance of the labor movement and the role or unions in helping “lay these cornerstones of the American middle class.” He also took some time to highlight his administration’s successes in strengthening the middle class.

But most notably, the president offered “just a little bit” on the “new way forward” he’ll present to Congress this week. Not surprisingly, details were scarce, but Obama specifically referenced infrastructure investments and the payroll tax cut.

“I’m going to propose ways to put America back to work that both parties can agree to, because I still believe both parties can work together to solve our problems. And given the urgency of this moment, given the hardship that many people are facing, folks have got to get together.

“But we’re not going to wait for them. We’re going to see if we’ve got some straight shooters in Congress. We’re going to see if congressional Republicans will put country before party. We’ll give them a plan, and then we’ll say, ‘Do you want to create jobs? Then put our construction workers back to work rebuilding America. Do you want to help our companies succeed? Open up new markets for them to sell their products. You say you’re the party of tax cuts? Well then, prove you’ll fight just as hard for tax cuts for middle-class families as you do for oil companies and the most affluent Americans. Show us what you got.’

“The time for Washington games is over. The time for action is now. No more manufactured crises. No more games. Now is not the time for the people you sent to Washington to worry about their jobs; now is the time for them to worry about your jobs.”

This is entirely consistent with the strategy that’s been coming together in recent weeks: Obama doesn’t intend to ask Congress to focus on job creation; he intends to challenge Congress to focus on job creation. If Republicans refuse — as appears all but certain — the point is to start sharing the blame. Obama presented a credible plan with popular ideas, the argument will go, but the GOP didn’t care. “I tried to make the economy better,” the president will argue, “but Republicans refused to work with me.”

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Obama: A Voice on the Job is Everyone’s Right

President Obama spent Labor Day in Detroit speaking with working families in an event sponsored by the Detroit Central Labor Council. AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka and other top union leaders joined Obama, who asserted his strong support for workers’ freedom to seek a voice at work through a union.

And I want everybody here to know, as long as I’m in the White House I’m going to stand up for collective bargaining….Because having a voice on the job and a chance to organize and a chance to negotiate for a fair day’s pay after a hard day’s work, that is the right of every man and woman in America–not just the CEO in the corner office, but also the janitor who cleans that office after the CEO goes home. Everybody has got the same right.

Obama blasted efforts by lawmakers to take away workers’ ability to collectively bargain for good middle-class jobs.

When I hear some of these folks trying to take collective bargaining rights away, trying to pass so-called “right to work” laws for private sector workers–that really mean the right to work for less and less and less–when I hear some of this talk I know this is not about economics. This is about politics.

In his remarks, Trumka pointed to Labor Day as the

one time of year when we stop to recognize work. Work — and the people who do it. Think about it. Think about what work means to our lives … and our country. Think about how work connects us all.

And then …say thank you to everyone who works … To the bus drivers who get us to our jobs. To the teachers who educate and encourage our children. To the nurses and doctors who look out for our health. The construction workers who build our cities—and those Secret Service agents keeping our president safe.

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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:06 AM
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1. I do note that a couple of times
he actually has pointed out that Republicans have not been cooperating. I have agreed lately that his use of the generic "Congress" rather than "Republicans in Congress" need to be changed.

Good article, ProSense. We can always count on you!
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:15 AM
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2. Maybe we should all send him a pair of comfortable shoes ...
We've heard this before. Talk is cheap.

Bake
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:20 AM
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3. Maybe
Edited on Tue Sep-06-11 09:21 AM by ProSense
"shoes" aren't as important as actions and policies.

The "shoe" thing, really lame!


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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:27 AM
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4. His words, not mine.
And yes, given his subsequent (in)actions, pretty lame. Pretty lame indeed.

Sucks when his own words come back to bite him, doesn't it?

Bake
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:30 AM
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5. Yes
"His words, not mine."

...from nearly four years ago. The actions and policies are during his Presidency.

Still, if you want to ignore them and harp on a four-year-old statement about "shoes," knock yourself out!



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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:39 AM
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7. And yet you can't deny what he said.
Nor can you deny his glaring absence from Wisconsin when it was on the line. Nor can you deny the countless times he's caved and kissed Republican butt. But go ahead, do your best. I'm still not buying it. He'll get my vote, only becuase the alternative is worse. But he won't get much else.

His words. Not mine.

Bake
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:44 AM
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8. Hmmmm?
Edited on Tue Sep-06-11 09:45 AM by ProSense
"Nor can you deny his glaring absence from Wisconsin when it was on the line. Nor can you deny the countless times he's caved and kissed Republican butt. But go ahead, do your best. I'm still not buying it. He'll get my vote, only becuase the alternative is worse. But he won't get much else."

So you're saying his presence in Wisconsin would have changed everything? The fact that many preferred he not get involved doesn't matter? You believe the President, who you apparently harbor some disdain for, should have made an appearance to do what: make everything better? For who: himself or the people of Wisconsin? Maybe you shouldn't put so much stock in someone you dislike?

"He'll get my vote, only becuase the alternative is worse."

Gee, the lesser of two evils, how original!

BTW, one of the rules that the NLRB changed dates back to the first Bush, and since then, there has been a Democratic President besides Obama.




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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:52 AM
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9. Would it have changed anything?
We'll never know. Because the POTUS was MIA. It might have. I'd sure as hell have felt better losing if I had seen OUR President on the line.

It's called LEADERSHIP.

My disdain is not for the person. It's for the personal lack of spine. It's for the caving. It's for the lack of fight. Say what you will, I really don't care, this President has caved to the right several times too many. I'm a political realist. But there is a time to stand and fight, except for this President. Dems have shown time and time again that we will back him if he'll just stand and fight. But he won't. Hell, he even caved over scheduling a frickin' SPEECH to Congress!

Bake
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:10 AM
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10. Hmmm?
"We'll never know. Because the POTUS was MIA. It might have. I'd sure as hell have felt better losing if I had seen OUR President on the line."

"Losing"? When did unseating two Republicans in GOP districts become "losing"?

Maybe the problem is perspective?

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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:14 AM
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11. Maybe I missed something. Did we regain a majority in Wisconsin?
No. We didn't. We fell short. Maybe the POTUS woud have made the difference. I guess we'll never know.

Bake
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 01:41 PM
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22. he cut wic. lame? criminal
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:36 AM
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6. What else did you expect him to *do* at a speech...
than talk?
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:47 AM
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14. Nothing, really.
I've learned to expect very little from this President.

Bake
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 06:14 PM
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23. couldn't agree more
talk is truly cheap.

Truth is he gets his walking papers from Goldmann Sachs!
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:30 AM
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12. I agree.
This President has always put on a good show when standing in front of a Pro-Union/Pro-Working Class audience.
I still can't forget these great moments:

EFCA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMNVIQqatyU

Support for Striking Workers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA9KC8SMu3o

Cadillac Tax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8wmN3wvhNM&feature=player_embedded

Yes!
President Obama was every bit as good yesterday as he was back in 2008.
Credit where credit is due!
He really knows how to rally the crowd!



You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.

Solidarity!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:36 AM
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13. Hmmm?
"EFCA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMNVIQqatyU "

Maybe time to update the criticism?

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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 01:04 PM
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15. The Employee Free Choice Act (EFCA) is now the Law of the Land?
WOW
I need to pay closer attention.
More people need to know this!

May I post this as an OP and use you as my source?

Please?


You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.

Solidarity!
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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 01:09 PM
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16. zzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzz zzzzzzzz zzzzzzzz zzzzzzz zzzzzzz
I've been on this ride before. For a couple of days, maybe till Sunday, if history is a map, he'll be a leader. But on Sunday or Monday........

I pray I'm not right. (But then I've said this prayer before too).
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 01:11 PM
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17. "I pray I'm not right. " Suggestion
get some sleep, it may help.

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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 01:13 PM
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18. anything to speed to the end of this nightmare.
Or maybe you should wake up.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 01:16 PM
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19. Wait
"anything to speed to the end of this nightmare.

Or maybe you should wake up.

...you think my waking up will end your nightmare?

Sleep, it's good for you!





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great white snark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 01:27 PM
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20. Awww, lay down and dream of Bernie and Dennis.
Dream that they could of done things differently in the same circumstance.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 01:27 PM
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21. Then you have not been praying enough
because looking at your subject line, you seem to be sleeping.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 07:45 PM
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24. Kick
:kick: :patriot:
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