President Obama should have checked the GOP's schedule?

[ProSense]

For all the handwringing about the date of the speech, it appears the solution suggested is that the President should have checked the GOP's schedule before making a move (a sure sign of strength) or implying that Boehner would have acted reasonable if the President had suggested another date.

The short memory is laughable.

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If the President had originally requested September 8, Boehner would have found an excuse to make that date an issue.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

1. Reason and pragmatism don't fly around here, my friend. But thanks anyway!

K&R!! :kick::kick:

[Warren Stupidity]

2. Strawman. unrec'd.

[ProSense]

3. Great rebuttal!

It has become a classic case of willful ignorance.

1) Boehner has to honor the request and invite the President to deliver a joint address (he cannot kick the door down)

2) Boehner would have made an issue of any date (he's known for his assholery)

3) Speechdategate is probable the stupidest outrage since the bow (and the snub)

[Warren Stupidity]

4. the objection voiced here was about the incompetent bumbing of date gate

that resulted in this morning's republican media dream event of yet another humiliating capitulation by this administration to republican demands.

Your OP posed a strawman argument to defeat. No rebuttal is required as there is nothing to rebut. The issue is not the gop schedule or the mechanics of a joint session, the issue is as stated: this administration, three years in, still hasn't got a clue who they are up against, and they keep getting themselves into this sort of trap, and keep having no plan to get out.

Spin away, but you ain't fooling anyone.

[ProSense]

6. Hmmm?

"the objection voiced here was about the incompetent bumbing of date gate"

What bumbling: the failure to check the GOP schedule?

Whether or not the administration checked the schedule is irrelevant. The date was as good as any to deliver the address. The fact that Boehner turned it down is typical GOP: party before country.

[Warren Stupidity]

7. the bumbling of getting backed down and forced to give in,

you just keep making shit up to attack. Nobody is claiming the problem was a failure to check a schedule.

[ProSense]

8. What?

"the bumbling of getting backed down and forced to give in"

Repeat

1) Boehner has to honor the request and invite the President to deliver a joint address (he cannot kick the door down)


Now, what exactly about that is hard to understand?

[Warren Stupidity]

10. WHO?

In their right minds would publicly make themselves vulnerable to exactly what Boehner did?
The administration made an issue of the date, publicly, and then had to back down, publicly. That some people continue to pretend that this was not a public humiliation is typical of the abject dishonesty some people bring here on a daily basis.

[ProSense]

15. Wait

"In their right minds would publicly make themselves vulnerable to exactly what Boehner did?"

...he shouldn't have requested the date or offer Boehner a ride on Air Force One?

What you're implying is that the President should cower from protocol and cower in fear that Boehner is going to act like an asshole. Then again, given the reaction to his assholery, it's no wonder he is emboldened.

[Llewlladdwr]

16. The request isn't the problem.

Announcing a firm time and date without making sure it was going to fly is the problem. I understand that the Speaker has to grant permission for the President to address a joint session of Congress. What I don't understand is why the Obama Administration seems so clueless about how protocol works. You don't make a public announcement about the timing of a major policy speech until you know for sure that you can make it stick. This President doesn't seem to be able to make much of anything stick these days.

[GOTV]

17. They didn't have to pick a date that left Boehner with a good excuse ...

... The date of a primary debate was a stupid choice. Interrupt Boehner's golf outing.

[bigdarryl]

5. OH PLEASE those mother fuckers on the first day of getting back from vacation

ain't doing shit!!

[GSLevel9]

9. you do realize the POTUS must receive an invitation from Boner, right?

[Raven]

11. Wouldn't we have been outraged if a Republican President

had tried to schedule a major speech at the same time as a Democratic debate?

[COLGATE4]

12. Do you think for a second that they wouldn't do it??????

[Raven]

14. Absolutely they would and we would be outraged. That's my point.

[Froward69]

13. President Obama needs to manipulate that drunk more...

If for anything, the sake of the country.