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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:20 PM
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Slate of multiple distinguished candidates proposed to challenge Obama from the left
After several attempts to effect change from outside the party, Ralph Nader is now trying work within the party structure.

The press would ignore one lesser-known candidate, Nader told The Daily Caller, but an unorthodox “slate” of candidates would attract more attention.

“So you have to have several people of distinguished backgrounds — different distinguished backgrounds — run as a slate in various primaries so that he can’t ignore someone who has a military-foreign policy background, environmental background, poverty-labor background. See what I mean?” Nader explained.

Multiple candidates would also be more powerful, he declared.


http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/01/nader-proposes-new-model-to-challenge-obama-threatens-to-throw-primary-process-into-chaos/

Is Ralph Nader on to something here?

Other than Gravel, who else will be part of this slate of candidates?

How many candidates will it take for the MSM to actually cover issues and their debate?

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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:22 PM
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1. Nader is just a shithead. Not much else can be said about the shithead. nt
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 10:04 PM
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13. Amen to that.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 08:14 PM
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29. Nader's activism on auto safety has probably saved the life of more than one person in your family
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 03:48 AM
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30. Right Nader only did that get attention for himself-Sarcasm!
And when people get compensation for getting bumped off of a flight, we can thank Nader for that as well, but he only did that because he is an egotist.

:sarcasm:

Something is very wrong with the modern Dem party if Nader has become the enemy.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:01 AM
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32. Few Democratic voters are that stupid. It's the pols & their corporate donors who don't like Nader
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:30 PM
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2. Did Nader keep clearing his throat and pointing at himself?
:puke:
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:33 PM
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3. i suspect the one ignored will be nader. /nt
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:42 PM
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4. Nader and The Daily Caller
Together again!

Tucker Carlson found a tool!

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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:43 PM
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10. It's Ralphie. Any platform will do.
;)
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:43 PM
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5. Will these people start running already?
Are they afraid to come out into the open? How do they expect to win?

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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:58 PM
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7. Perhaps the idea is to create a serious debate on issues and policy.
Perhaps if we have a group of serious individuals, each an expert in a particular area, we might actually have a serious discussion of the issues?

Perhaps, if they form a group, they can protect each other from ad hominem attacks which refuse to address these issues?

Perhaps, these people don't necessarily expect to win, but are content to influence the national political discussion in a constructive way which has been lacking in recent years from the MSM?

:popcorn:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:46 PM
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12. Nader ... serious?
:rofl:
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:27 PM
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14. Are you saying have a bunch of one-issue candidates?
With none of them being smart enough to actually be able to answer anything but their own issue, let alone be the president and have to cope with all the issues?
That happens every day, they call them pundits. :rofl:
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pmorlan1 Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 06:22 AM
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20. Great idea
I think it's a great idea.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 02:57 PM
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26. The debate does nothing
Has no effect, and is only seen by political junkies and pundits. It's who gets elected that matters.

Entertainment is not the point.
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 05:20 PM
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27. When the unemployment rate is at 9.1% people will watch political debates.
The unemployed do not find the state of the nation at all entertaining, and they don't have much better to do. Some of them may become much more activist than they have in the past.

This will not be a typical election year.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 08:50 PM
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6. Of COURSE he goes to The Daily Caller-a RW site.
:eyes:
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:34 PM
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8. Nader is a FRUAD he likes to go against democrats so the rethugs can
have an advantage he's not even in the democrat party
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:42 PM
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9. Why is it that non-Dems like Nader & Sanders think they can determine
who the Democratic Party runs for President? :shrug: Begs the question, why don't they step up? Nevermind, I know why. :eyes:
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Denzil_DC Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 12:29 PM
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24. +1 And also find eager support from some here.
Here's an idea for them - If you feel so let down, so disillusioned with Obama and the Democrats, then go join the Greens or whatever vanity party Nader cooks up, and work on the issues that animate you from there.

It'd be more honest than hoping for a GOP victory in 2012 while claiming to be a Democrat.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 01:31 PM
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25. Damn. I wish I could rec your post.
"It'd be more honest than hoping for a GOP victory in 2012 while claiming to be a Democrat."

:applause:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 09:45 PM
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11. Nader and "The Daily Caller".
A nutty match made in heaven.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:39 PM
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15. Fire up that fundraising apparatus, Ralphie
Gravel wants $1 million to get in.

:rofl:
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Muskypundit Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-11 11:40 PM
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16. Interesting how much hate Nader gets on DU
When he is more left than we could ever wet-dream Obama into being.

And as for him going to the daily caller.... Doesnt Kucinich go to fox news?

A lot of people like to hate on Nader for Bush winning the election, but that was not Naders fault; bush had the election in the bag the whole time. It was stolen from the start. Nader was just a convenient scrap goat for us to focus on rather than for us to focus on bush fucking stealing the presidential election.

And as for him not having a D by his name.... There are plenty of people with D's by their names that shouldnt have them. To accuse nader of being anything but leftwing would be like accusing Perot of being a liberal.

You guys really are not on your A game when you trash on Nader.
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 04:51 AM
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18. On the issues, DU is certainly more in tune with Nader than Obama.
How fast did Obama abandon the public option in his health care reform push?

Obama certainly represented in the 2008 campaign that he would govern more to the left than he has.

How does the party hold him accountable for that, if not some kind of primary challenge?

As for the 2000 election, if the argument is that Bush could not have beaten Gore head-up in 2000, then why not push for run-off elections where the winner in each state must get >50% of the popular vote to win electoral votes?

Ad hominem attacks rarely result in policy change.


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Rincewind Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 02:08 AM
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17. Fuck Ralph Nader nt.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 05:41 AM
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19. Nader was a great grassroots activist. He's not a great political strategist
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pmorlan1 Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 06:40 AM
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21. Bizarre
While I never voted for Nader he more closely represents my view on the issues than President Obama. He's also spent his entire career trying to help the working class unlike most of our current crop of Dems who work towards helping the wealthy.

Watching all of these ignorant, hateful posts directed against Nader reminds me of how we criticize the working class right wingers who keep voting against their own best interests when they vote for Republicans who continue to pass laws that hurt the working class. Knocking Nader for standing up for us is bizarre and in my view is really counter productive.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 10:53 AM
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22. ROFL... keep.. the dream... alive...
:rofl:
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 10:53 AM
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23. i wonder how ralph's raytheon stocks are doin....
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-11 05:40 PM
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28. Intrade on a 'serious' primary contender to Obama is running at $ 8 a share

Its pretty hard to get lower than $ 8 on ANYTHING in Intrade.

If you really think that there is any chance that this will happen then you should take your savings and buy it.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 04:49 AM
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31. Fringe Nuttiness Outside The Realm Of Reality
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