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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 12:30 PM
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Gallup's daily trackinghas Obama at 41% today
...and it will go back up to the mid 40s in the next few days as the bad polling days from last week drop off.


But it won't get reported in the media... you can count on that.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 12:35 PM
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1. For the Media, he will be at 39% for the rest of the week,
come hell or high water.

They love low polling for Obama. They strive on it.
It makes their day that much better.

Is up over 50% on Intrade.....

But of course, for those working hard to defeat this man,
that's bad news.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 12:40 PM
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2. "mid 40s" is something to cheer about?
:shrug:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 12:49 PM
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6. Considering recent events,
I'd say so.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 01:12 PM
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9. to get from 39 to 50+ you have to go thru mid 40's. So yes. n/t
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 12:41 PM
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3. The polls reflect the economy
If unemployment goes up and the stock market goes down, Obama's approval will go down as well. It is no mystery. For re-election purposes, it would be better for the markets to crash now and unemployment spike now, and then be in recovery mode till November 2012.
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KeyserSoze87 Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 12:43 PM
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4. The "liberal" media wants Obama to be the next Jimmy Carter.
They'll be having an orgasm if a Republican gets elected president next year.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 12:46 PM
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5. They need a reason to have an orgasm?
:shrug:
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KeyserSoze87 Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 12:56 PM
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8. Good point.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 01:16 AM
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15. Yep, I've been watching the media, they are adoring the Republican candidates.
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KeyserSoze87 Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 08:16 AM
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19. They don't care which Republican wins.
As long as Obama's a one-term president they'll be happy.
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 08:46 AM
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21. The pubs are always taking their messages to the media.
They are always available for the camera. Of course the media loves them. They give them a story. They work the media.

Where are the Democrats? Why aren't they taking our message to the media? The adults need to get off their high horses and get their mugs on our teevees.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 12:53 PM
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7. +4 swing in one day. The press will keep flogging the old number and then ignore the new one.
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Shaundra Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 01:48 PM
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10. It was also 41% two days ago
Where's the big news?
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 02:03 PM
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11. Ezra is in for Martin Bashir and just used these most recent 41% figures in his segment. nt
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 02:19 PM
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12. You betcha!
That darn librul media!
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 05:26 PM
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13. I can't believe it's that high.
Le sigh. Tick tock.
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 01:09 AM
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14. Obama is doing much better than he should be given the state of the economy
If he was being judged by the wellbeing of the nation, he'd be in the mid-30s consistently.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 02:26 AM
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16. Rasmussen's number that came out Monday had Obama at: Approve 44
Edited on Tue Aug-16-11 02:27 AM by Tx4obama

And they are usually several points 'behind' all the other polls.
So, Obama is doing pretty good ;)

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 04:05 AM
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17. Ironically, someone posted a link to a PDF that said Rasmussen was the best poller...
...in previous elections, in order to "disprove" the idea that Obama has support. :rofl:
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 05:34 PM
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42. I just spent 20 minutes ...
looking for an article I saw yesterday on the net.

The headline was something like: Rasmussen is rated 17th (or 23rd or something) among pollsters.

I can't find it anywhere ;(

Anyway, I've never believed any of the Rasmussen polls because they lean way to far republican.

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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 08:08 PM
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45. Exactly, which is why the poster rung false.
I can dig it up if you want (was within the 48 hour MyDU post window), but meh, not worth it.
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 04:29 AM
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18. Cue Tom Petty: "Free Falling". Obama's new campaign song! NT
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 09:36 AM
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22. That makes zero sense, considering his approval is now trending upwards.
Edited on Tue Aug-16-11 09:36 AM by ClarkUSA
Perhaps you should hang up the canned line, as you used it last week so gleefully.

You won't be needing it any more.
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 10:36 AM
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23. Not within the margins of error! NT
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 10:50 AM
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24. Keeping the hope alive, I see. Are you happy about that? If so, why?
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 12:48 PM
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29. Tell me, what hope do we have when Obama needs to compromise with a Congress at 13% approval?
For all of his need to remain above the fray, he just tackled the tar baby with that.

He just stuck himself to the mess, and people will remember that this is a BIPARTISAN mess now.

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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 01:26 PM
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31. "he just tackled the tar baby with that" Why are you using a racist term in conjunction w/Obama?
Edited on Tue Aug-16-11 01:46 PM by ClarkUSA
Are you a Pat Buchanan fan, perhaps, Hart2008?
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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 01:34 PM
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33. Quick! Look over there!!! (nt)
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 01:45 PM
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35. Why don't you let the "tar baby" phrase proponent speak for himself?
Or are you condoning such language by your mockery of my disgust at such racist terminology?
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 03:48 PM
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36. The Tar-Baby is a doll made of tar and turpentine used to entrap Br'er Rabbit
Edited on Tue Aug-16-11 04:14 PM by Hart2008
I'm sorry that you had a deprived childhood and never read any of the Uncle Remus stories. They are in fact a tribute to African-American story telling:

Uncle Remus is a collection of animal stories, songs, and oral folklore, collected from Southern United States blacks. Many of the stories are didactic, much like those of Aesop's fables and the stories of Jean de La Fontaine...
...Br'er Rabbit ("Brother Rabbit") is the main character of the stories, a likable character, prone to tricks and trouble-making who is often opposed by Br'er Fox and Br'er Bear. In one tale, Br'er Fox constructs a lump of tar and puts clothing on it. When Br'er Rabbit comes along he addresses the "tar baby" amiably, but receives no response. Br'er Rabbit becomes offended by what he perceives as Tar Baby's lack of manners, punches it, and becomes stuck.<2> Using the phrase "tar baby" to refer to the idea of "a problem that gets worse the more one struggles against it" became part of the wider culture of the United States in the mid-20th century...
...Harris' work was, according to himself, an accurate account of the stories he heard from the slaves when he worked in a plantation as a young man. He claimed to have listened to, and memorized, the African American animal stories told by Uncle George Terrell, Old Harbert, and Aunt Crissy at the plantation and wrote them down some years later: He later acknowledged his debt to them in his later fictionalized autobiography, 'On the Plantation' (1892). Many of these stories that he recorded have direct equivalents in the African oral tradition, and it's thanks to Harris that their African-American form is preserved.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncle_Remus

It is you who is demeaning the contribution of the African-American story telling tradition here in the U.S.

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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 04:07 PM
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38. Actually, I'm mocking you for being offended at using tar baby in it's original, non-racist context.
It's a racist term when applied to black humans. Not actual tar babies.
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 04:38 PM
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40. How did a classic American story with African roots become racist?
The video from the story is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk0u9ygrCYQ

I enjoyed seeing this when I was younger.

He gets out by tricking them into throwing him into the briar patch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7tyhpWiZyM&feature=related

This has just gotten silly.

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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 04:43 PM
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41. When racist white people used the term to refer to blacks in a derogatory manner. (nt)
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 04:10 PM
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39. No, I am an Uncle Remus fan. It is a tribute to African-American story telling.
Edited on Tue Aug-16-11 04:23 PM by Hart2008
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncle_Remus

"A similar tale from African folklore in West Africa has the trickster Anansi in the role of Br'er Rabbit."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar_baby

Have you no shame?

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Mr Deltoid Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 08:37 AM
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20. 41% is a good thing?
God help us
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 10:51 AM
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25. The upward trend is a good thing for those who support our Democratic President for re-election.
Edited on Tue Aug-16-11 10:52 AM by ClarkUSA
Of course, some people wouldn't see that as a good thing.
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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 12:15 PM
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26. A day is not a trend. (nt)
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 01:21 PM
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30. I'm an optimist. I anticipate his approval ratings rising over time after this debt ceiling bleep.
Edited on Tue Aug-16-11 01:23 PM by ClarkUSA
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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 01:30 PM
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32. Except that makes no sense
Edited on Tue Aug-16-11 01:32 PM by jeff47
Congress was the one that took most of the hit on the debt ceiling fiasco. Obama's handling of it received positive polling.

Plus, he's down to 39% again today.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 01:44 PM
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34. It obviously does, considering the timing. Polls will fluctuate, but overall, they will go up.
Edited on Tue Aug-16-11 01:45 PM by ClarkUSA
Mark my words.
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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 04:06 PM
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37. Wait a minute. You were just declaring a 1 day change proof of a trend.
Now you're claiming today's 1 day change isn't relevant.

I realize you love the guy, but could you at least be consistent?
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Mr Deltoid Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 07:55 PM
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44. It's hard to be consistant
...when you just react.
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Mr Gerrity Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 12:28 PM
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27. It's back down to 39% today. n/t
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 12:37 PM
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28. Hey there! Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 06:44 PM
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43. I see Drudge has a big "back at 39%" headline up today
Of course, Matt didn't bother to report the 41% yesterday. What a pathetic hack.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-11 08:09 PM
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46. DU didn't post an LBN news posting for 41% like they did 39%.
Who would've thought?
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Shaundra Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 09:51 PM
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47. 39% was news because it was an all-time low
Edited on Thu Aug-18-11 09:52 PM by Shaundra
41% is not an all-time low. Not news worth reporting. Sorry. It's not the first time Obama is at 41%. He's been at 39% only once. 39% was newsworthy.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 12:11 AM
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48. He's been at 39% twice in the past week.
It is not newsworthy unless it's a week long trend or something. Instead it fluctuates and will likely go back up over the coming days.
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shaundra_ Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 04:27 AM
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49. Why is it likely to go back up?
Edited on Fri Aug-19-11 04:28 AM by shaundra_
What is the great economic news that will happen in the coming days? Or did you just say that because it sounds comforting?

Someone else inserted foot in mouth by starting a thread saying that in the next few days Obama's approval will go back in the mid-40's. It's at 40 now.
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 04:36 AM
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50. Wishfull thinking! NT
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