How would Bush be different than Obama regarding THE WARS if he was given a 3rd term?

[Dawgs]

Thoughts?

[ecstatic]

1. Did you miss the mass troop withdrawals? And the deadlines

which are quickly approaching? Pay attention and quit with the foolish questions.

[RC]

6. Did you miss the new wars we have started in the Middle East?

We have what going now... Six?

[ClarkUSA]

9. Really? Name all "six" and provide proof.

[RC]

11. And add to this Somalia.

The Five Current Wars Of The United States Of America


http://open.salon.com/blog/tomjwright/2011/03/31/the_five_current_wars_of_the_united_states_of_america

[ClarkUSA]

12. Sorry, whiny op-eds by media whores are not credible sources.

[RC]

13. Why do I think even if I had links from

www.whitehouse.gov, for this, you'd still deny all the places we are killing people.
Oh, yeah, the big macho Obama pix. You really need to come up for air and look around.

[ClarkUSA]

14. More empty rhetoric. So you have no proof. Not surprised.

[RC]

15. You are blind to any evidence that does not support your mind set.

Your single minded support of Obama, while ignoring his continuance of Bush's policies is evidence of that.

[uponit7771]

16. You haven't posted any evdience...

[RC]

25. You deny the evidence. It is all over the place. Even from Obama himself.

If you won't believe his expansion of the wars, try this.

President Obama Joins the Cult of Economics Deniers
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1744139


Terrror, American-Style
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1744124

[RC]

34. How is this not evidence?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=1749181&mesg_id=1749252

[moksha]

36. Here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=746018&mesg_id=746872

[BklnDem75]

18. After all that work of making up a new number?

That made up number will be in double digits by the end of the year.

[moksha]

29. Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, Yemen and Somalia.

Iraq: http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/Centers/Saban/Iraq%20Index/index.pdf

Afghanistan: http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/Programs/FP/afghanistan%20index/index.pdf

Pakistan: http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/Programs/FP/pakistan%20index/index20110629.pdf

Libya (with NATO): http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42246682/ns/politics-more_politics/t/us-role-libya-costs-hundreds-millions-so-far/#.TkleAWN0c2w

Yemen: At least 35 US drone attacks were reported in Yemen over the last two month, raising the worries of locals. http://yemenpost.net/Detail123456789.aspx?ID=3&SubID=3873&MainCat=3

Somalia: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Special/2011/08/08/Al-Qaida-linked-rebels-pounded-in-Somalia/UPI-49741312818155/

Supporters of these acts of war may try to argue semantics. But, if the CIA or US military is being used to deliberately kill people, that amounts to acts of war. We don't do the big, formal declarations of war anymore, so if that is what you are looking for, you won't find it. What you will find is hundreds, thousands, dead from at least 6 different countries from very expensive tax-payer US bombs.

[moksha]

21. The troop withdrawals in Iraq are following a timeline signed by the US and Iraq

under Bush. Ostensibly, it would be happening at the same rate regardless. Obama increased the troops in Afghanistan. There was no indication bush ever intended to surge in Afghanistan.

[Dawgs]

28. Looks like I wasn't the only one paying attention.

:hi:

[seaglass]

24. The SOFA agreement with Iraq was signed by Bush.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement

[Ter]

26. Those are on paper only

He said he ended the war in Iraq. It didn't stop US troop deaths there. He's a fraud.

[colbertforpresident]

32. Troop withdraws

Replaced by for profit contractors. Don't be fooled!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. He Would Used His Reelection As A Mandate To Invade Iran

I believe he got the two nations mixed up anyway because they sounded alike.

[Tiggeroshii]

10. And his invasion of Iran as a mandate to be re elected

[BeyondGeography]

3. Osama would still be watching porn in Pakistan, for one thing

And there would be no withdrawals timetables and no results.

[CakeGrrl]

4. +1 to all of the above.

SMH that people really don't believe there's any difference.

[AngkorWot]

5. You wouldn't be complaining so much about the guy in the Oval Office

[great white snark]

8. Ouch.

:hide:

[BlueMTexpat]

23. Right on! nt

[Dawgs]

27. Only because I would expect it from a Republican. Ouch!!

:eyes:

[jefferson_dem]

35. Zing.

True.

[scheming daemons]

7. there would be only 10k troops in afgh, OBL would still be alive, and there'd be 150k troops in Iraq

Instead, there are less than 50k in Iraq, 75k in afghanistan, and OBL would be alive

Thanks for asking.

[BackToThe60s]

17. Ground troops in Libya, Lebanon, Iran, etc.

Maybe Turkey if Nutty Yahoo demanded it.

[Harmony Blue]

19. Drone attacks in other countries wouldn't be as high

that is the only difference I can think of which is ironic because the Bush administration set the tone of preemptive strikes (Iraq invasion).

[harun]

20. Less drone murders, more propaganda against Iran, more propaganda against Syria.

[BlueMTexpat]

22. If you really have to ask this question, I really have to wonder

what you are doing on Democratic Underground? :shrug:

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

30. Well, we'd probably be occupying Iran, for starters

with an eye on Syria.

[ForeignandDomestic]

31. The False Paradigm

It's quite funny and sad how the choice is between war and more war.....

What's the difference between a Liberal bomb or a Neo-con bomb?

[krabigirl]

33. We'd be bombing Iran along with the other six countries. maybe syria too.

[PurityOfEssence]

37. He would have gotten Congressional authorization before fucking Libya

He might have also gone for a "real" war, instead of this candy-assed air support.

There's no question in my mind that he'd still have gotten us entangled there, but unlike the ardent interventionists, my particular assumption is not "fact".