Ed Schultz just isn't that smart, is he?

[Aramchek]

Head like a fucking brick.

He doesn't even know the definition of international terrorism,
yet he is convinced Hasan is equivalent to Al Qaeda.

He won't even acknowledge that Conspiracy is a key element of Terrorism.

Hasan's emails to the Imam were not plans for terror.

Ed's like a blinded bull.
Nice if he's pointed at your enemies, but dangerous because he has no idea what's going on.

[Connie_Corleone]

1. Ed might be slipping back into "republican" mode.

I stopped listening to him and watching his show a couple of weeks ago.

[Tarheel_Dem]

36. Ditto. Randi Rhodes predicted it way back when. Bid Eddie rode a wave of...

anti-Bush, progressive sentiment to whatever fame he's achieved, and the winds may be blowing the other way, and Bid Ed won't miss the tide. Watched the first couple of shows, and found he just wasn't that well informed, and I never looked back.

[quiller4]

62. And Randi Rhodes is a credible source?

[spoony]

63. Only if you're looking for a bar recommendation. nt

[ShortnFiery]

2. Big Ed can get off on a tangent or two, but overall, I still support him.

He truly is a regular guy of average to above average intelligence. The vast majority of time I enjoy his show so I'm not going to get "pissy" just because I think he's on the wrong side of an issue tonight.

Ed Schultz is always OK by me. :-)

[Ineeda]

3. I've been noticing a distinct anti-Obama theme lately.

And I really don't like all the yelling he does.

[TommyO]

5. Look at a whole bunch of the posters right here at DU who are railing against Obama.

[inna]

14. I don't like the yelling either.

I call him Ed *Shouts* instead of Schultz. Heh heh.

[Egnever]

45. Thats pretty funy

[Withywindle]

67. AHAHAH you're totally right.

Still, I am amenable to the idea of having a liberal SHOUTer on TV for a change, considering how many RWers there are making the big bucks for years.


It annoys me, though. I do usually mute the sound and use that timeframe for cleaning.

[impik]

18. It's the flavor of the month/year on the left

Walking all over Barack Obama.

[Canuckistanian]

20. My wife can't stand his voice

I keep having to tell her that he's really not so bad, but...

I see her point. Someone who uses a calm rational voice is more likely to attract an audience.

[quakerboy]

65. Which is why

Beck and limbaugh do so well?


Perhaps you meant a certain type of audience, rather than just an audience.

[vaberella]

23. I sincerely believe Obama is the least liked individual on both sies of the isle. n/t

[Ineeda]

24. I don't get that impression at all. But what do I know? n/t

[vaberella]

46. I get that.

It's not how I look at let's say, Limbaugh where majority of Liberals hate the guy. Becuase that guy is still well liked by Repubs. Or how Kerry is disliked by the Right, but well liked by the left.

I see Obama as getting a lot of shit even if it's unconnected to him from both sides of the isle.

[Fla Dem]

54. Say What!!!! Based on what? n/t

[donheld]

42. Yes the yelling got old months ago

He talks like the fools who post using all caps.

[mmonk]

61. Not really. He doesn't want the party to continue selling out on the public option

or any way forward to something like single payer. I agree with him on that and the conclusion Democrats could suffer a price.

[Thrill]

4. Little rise in his ratings has went to his head.

He better realize as fast as they went up they can go the other way as well.

[KansasVoter]

6. If you don't agree with the DU you are wrong!

[Aramchek]

8. do you think Hasan's act was International Terrorism?

[Cha]

39. Facts are facts..you can have your own opinion but you're not

allowed to have your own fact.

[jenmito]

7. I thought the very same thing after he had Rep. Sestak on the radio, TRYING to tell Ed

it is NOT terrorism, at least from what we know now. Ed was disagreeing with him saying the stuff he's still saying today-about 3 days later.

Combined with Ed's great idea that we should not pass any HCR bill now, wait 'til 2010 to get "more Progressives in Congress" so we could get a BETTER HCR bill passed in a couple years, I'm really losing respect for him.

[robo50]

9. The poor guy means well, but his desire for universal health care and my

desire, although they might be identical, Ed has a show to put on, I can just sit at home on my computer and curse the stupid selfish idiot Republicans, and Lieberman....

He has a show to put on, and he needs to stay as pure and as dogmatic as Dobbs was.

I am afraid he cannot be a reasonable host, if his opinions get in the way of the news in the first 10 minutes of his show.

Shooting his career in the foot in the first year on air...

And he means so well.

As to Ed and terrorism, there's dumb, and then there's being proved dumb and staying dumb.

[lamp_shade]

10. He's wearing very thin lately. I had to turn him off.

[Sebass1271]

11. i like Ed.

so please leave him alone. he is the only voice of reason we have on tv, aside from Keith and Rachel. Thats it.

[Doremus]

34. I've been enjoying the Morning Meeting with Dylan something or other.

The guy bloviates something fierce but I find myself nodding most of the time he's talking.

[Captain Hilts]

12. No, he isn't as bright as he should be. nt

[zulchzulu]

13. Big Eddie and Moron Joe should start a sports show on ESPN

That's their schtick. Politics is just not a correct fit.

[LonelyLRLiberal]

15. Ka-ching!

:rofl:

[jgraz]

38. I'm sure KO would love that

:rofl:

[butterfly77]

51. The other morning he was on with Scarborough...

I knew for some reason he was happy,maybe he was back on his meds. Ed was on the show and Scar kept calling Dems every name in the book and Ed just sat there smiling and agreed with him. These liars have been popping up from everywhere now that Obama is the Pres and I am seeing now who are the liars,hypocrites and fake Dems.

They are all over the place in Obama's cabinet and everywhere else in the government leaking information and lies as though the Pres told them personally,these so called reporters really have it bad trying to tell us how Obama is thinking about an issue and they are phrasing it as though he said whatever the issue is word for word..Everyday I wake to see who will tell us that they were really a Republicon or who will try to stab our president in the back..

[Captain Hilts]

53. ESPN doesn't want morons. nt

[SoFlaJet]

16. I've given up on his show

The last few times I tried to watch I had to turn him off-he gives me a frickin' headache with all this 'we shouldn't vote for this bill' lunacy.

[Dr Fate]

17. No one has spent more time on air talking about and advocating for a strong Public Option.

Not only is he smart when it comes to the issues that I care most about, but he is also correct.

[Aramchek]

27. all the while telling us that Obama failed to deliver it

[pokercat999]

48. What's your point? That he is correct?

Which, to date, he is. Do we have universal healthcare? Are we past the perpetually moving deadlines set by Obama? Obama has failed up to this point in time. Will he eventually get his healthcare "reform"? Probably but it will be a weak and sickly bill that will take years to improve to the point of being really useful to most Americans. Better than nothing......maybe.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

49. Ed is disappointed as many of us are

with the HCR bill as it is now. They neutralized the PO and in turn made the bill a giveaway to the insurance companies, I dont agree with Ed on this terrorism angle, I actually couldnt believe he was saying it. But I am with Ed on the HCR bill totally.

[Canuckistanian]

19. I really tried to like Ed

I listened to his radio show all summer long.

He's been a fierce fighter for HCR and I've admired his passion.

But he just hasn't quite grasped the fundamentals like Thom Hartmann or Randi or even the crew on Stephanie Miller's show. They seem to "get it".

Well, not the "fundamentals" so much, but maybe the social and political nuances. And Ed's knowledge of history isn't too strong.

I find myself cheering for his volume more than his message. His heart is in the right place, but his understanding of the "really big picture" is NOT.

[dionysus]

29. i think you summed it up perfectly.

:thumbsup:

[AspenRose]

56. Very true.

[gateley]

21. It took some getting used to his yelling, but I've grown fond of him. I will admit

that sometimes he gets stubborn, and that's frustrating (and useless).

I don't think he's anti-Obama, just calling Obama on what he feels he's doing wrong. :7

I'm not in agreement with him all the time, but I think his motives are coming from the right place and he's got our interests at heart. He gets a pass in my book.

[Raine]

68. Me too

I like him. :-)

[insanity]

22. Nope

I think his political analysis always falls short, he comes off irrational, and his interviews never seem hard-hitting.

Rachel is the best anchor on the entire network.

[Raine]

25. Just because his opinion is different from yours

doesn't mean he's not smart .... geesh! :yoiks: :argh:

[Hamlette]

26. I only watched him a time or two and was shocked when he couldn't follow the argument

if any guest brings up a point that is not part of his pre determined talking points or makes a point he's not thought of, he doesn't pick up on it. It's like listening to an interview and thinking "Why didn't he ask X? It was right there in front of him and he left it sitting there!" Too frustrating to watch for me.

[Fla Dem]

55. I've noticed that too. A guest will make a point and Ed just stays to his script.

I get totally frustrated, because there were several times when I watched him the guest would either make an incredibly stupid comment that anyone could refute, and Ed just keeps on with his talking points instead of challenging the statement. Or a guest will make a fantastic point, and it just blows by "Big Ed", with no follow up or reinforcement of what the guest said, or asking the guest to elaborate. It really has become an hour of watching/listening to Ed rant. No give or take at all.

[laughingliberal]

58. That is not unique to Ed in talking heads circles

Rachel and Keith are better but Ed has an important place in messaging. This is the guy that can reach the NASCAR crowd. Progressive Democrats love policy wonks but they do not appeal to the masses. If we don't learn how to start packaging our message in a way that appeals to the masses of incurious, average Joes we are doomed. We have been baffled, for decades now, at conservative winning the debate on just about everything. We need people like Ed Shultz if we want the 'guys who shower after work' voting for Democrats.

[jenmito]

28. Rachel Maddow just explained why this is NOT terrorism. n/t

[Cha]

30. I bet that was good and

informative.

[jenmito]

31. Yup. She broke it down...

and then it continued with Jonathan Turley who I can't stand, but he was also explaining that it wasn't terrorism.

[Cha]

32. Thanks..yeah, blast from the past.

The Jonathan Turley Wars:nuke:

[Clio the Leo]

33. It's unfortunate that he has the best guests on....

.... he always has members of Congress on, more than on any other MSNBC show I think and I enjoy hearing things from them directly (as opposed to the pundits.)

But I spend most of my time wanting to just shake him really hard until he calms down. lol ..... I cannot remember the name of his first guest on last night's show, but he said exactly what I'd like to say, essentially, "I love you to death Ed, but you're DEAD wrong on this...." (regarding the health care bill.)

[Pab Sungenis]

35. Ed Schultz has always been a Republican.

He just started doing the "progressive" schtick when it became popular to bash Bush, and he discovered he'd have an easier time lining up affiliates if he was competing against Randi Rhodes for them instead of Sean Hannity.

Now that the 2009 elections have "proven" that the Republicans are "back," he's going to go back to his real roots.

[Dreamer Tatum]

41. Proof, please. nt

[Pab Sungenis]

57. He has admitted to having been a Republican.

Now he claims he switched to being a Democrat, but no one has ever offered proof of his registration.

And, as I said, he's an opportunist ready to drift in whatever direction he thinks the political winds are blowing.

[quakerboy]

66. His single payer health care Republican roots?

How does that follow?

[TheKentuckian]

37. He is getting to be too much mouth open with ears closed

and oblivious in the extreme to any nuance. He's sometimes acting like a Republican but has liberal positions and it makes for a mixed ride.

Again, he is asking questions fishing for a single response not for the person's answers from that person's perspective. I still get a little out of his show but he's wearing thin, if he keeps this up we'll end up parting company as friends, I reckon.

[Dreamer Tatum]

40. I liked him better when he did the voice of Sylvester the Cat nt

[Jim Sagle]

43. Big Ed RRRRRAWWWWWWXXXXXX!!!!!!

[Aramchek]

50. yes, he has rocks in his head. Didn't I already say that?

[Egnever]

44. Nope hes not.

The blinded bull analogy describes him perfectly. He is sort of a whore as well. Have you been to his website? Holly crap that guy is selling himself.

He is our Rush

[RepublicanElephant]

47. ed's trying, but he's not really a liberal/progressive in his soul.

so his rants sometimes lack depth.

still, i'd rather watch him than some wingnut.

[laughingliberal]

59. I'm not sure about liberal/progressive but his support for working class issues is

dead on. He frequently says, "I'm fighting for the guys who shower after work," and I think that's true. I see him championing the values of supporting unions and working class people. As for this recent thing on the Fort Hood incident, I haven't seen the show past week so, can't say.

[Phx_Dem]

52. No, but he sure can scream.

People who are not too smart often resort to screaming to make their point.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

60. I was shocked by his behavior the other day, suggesting that Hassan is a terrorist.

He wouldn't let up on David Corn, either. Randi had a good discussion about it on her show a few days ago. Oddly enough, the killer who went on a spree in Orlando wasn't called a terrorist. Hmmm...wonder why...

[PBS Poll-435]

64. He wasn't an Army doctor?

:shrug:

:dunce:

[cleveramerican]

69. He occassionally shows a tendency to grandstand on an issue.

getting hung up over which term applies seems misdirected to me.