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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 06:59 PM
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How do Republicans just walk away from any blame whatsoever
if and when a default happens? Sure, nobody, including President Obama, is liable to come out smelling like roses if a default actually happens but the Republicans can't seriously believe that the public is going to lay all (or even most) of the blame for a default on President Obama much less reward them electorally next year if a default messes up the economy even more, right- particularly since so many of them have been telegraphing their intentions to refuse to raise the debt ceiling under any circumstances all along and/or use the economy to help weaken and ultimately defeat President Obama next year? Right?
Another thing: Aside from some questionable arguments about the 14th Amendment, Congress is ultimately responsible for raising the debt ceiling. Congress hasn't sent a bill for him to sign yet. He's been involved in negotiations, yes, but, ultimately, only Congress can produce the necessary legislation to do what needs to be done, so how is President potentially "on the hook" for being blamed for a default- that, as anybody with half a brain knows, was engineered by the Republicans in the first place- anyhow? The only way a bill is not going to get passed is for either the House or the Senate to obstruct passage because neither side can get enough votes for any kind of plan and/or somebody in the Senate (i.e. DeMint, Paul) decide to grandstand for their own perverse pleasure. The President can't do a damned thing to move a proposal forward other than lay down some markers and make some suggestions about what he might or might not signed but, ultimately, if Congress comes together on a bill moderate enough to gain passage in the House and Senate that raises the debt ceiling, Obama will sign it IMHO. At any rate, if anybody should be held responsible if a default occurs, it shouldn't be President Obama IMHO.
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Cool Logic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 07:06 PM
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1. I heard Boehner utter default half-a-dozen time earlier...
Likewise, Obama has warned of the "dangers of defaulting..."

However, none of what they are saying is true. We can not default and we will not default.

I'm beginning to wonder if the coffers are a bit low for both parties and they have decided to use this "crisis" as a means of raising money.
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 07:13 PM
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2. They might.
A lot of the public votes by "feel."

When they feel bad about how things are going, they automatically vote against those that are in power, even if they weren't responsible for what happened. Look at 2010.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 07:20 PM
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3. I think that everyone of us and our friends should call as many Repub.
members of congress as we can and tell them to support our President and stop holding up the passage of a bill to raise the debt ceiling!
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 01:46 PM
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9. I was a bit clairvoyant on this. His speech started at 9PM. I posted at
8:20PM. maybe this is just something I felt he really needed to do. Call us to rise up. We are more than the majority. It's time he uses our desire to improve our country.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 07:22 PM
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4. Because our Democrats don't hang it on them. nt
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 07:25 PM
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5. Why did George Bush walk away from all responsibility
for the disaster he made in Iraq?
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 07:28 PM
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7. Going after Bush was " off the table."
I expect a similar strategy must be used here as well.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 07:26 PM
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6. Democrats will figure out a way to let them.
sometimes we just have to let them fall on their own swords.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 07:35 PM
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8. Sociopaths never take responsibility for anything.
It's always somebody else's fault.
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medialeansright Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 02:10 PM
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10. Because the media lets them.
It is incredible isn't it?
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 02:18 PM
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11. The corporate-owned MSM won't inform viewers. That helps the GOP.
The media outlets are owned by entities/people who have a financial interest in who's in power, and those interests are best served by the GOP.
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