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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:52 AM Original message |
Every single Presidential election of the past 50 years has been won in the political center |
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Raven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
1. The question is: how have age 55+ voters figured in the past elections? |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
46. will those 55+ voters think that the repub candidate will protect them? |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
2. i agree this helps Obama's presidential chances |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:56 AM Response to Original message |
3. Fourth rec |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
52. Apparently its not happy news for everybody |
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whosinpower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
4. I learned a word very early in life |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:58 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. You can vote how you want... won't change the political math overall |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 09:20 AM Response to Reply #4 |
39. Yes. Babies use that word a lot. nt |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
6. You dont get it...if he fucks with SS or Medicare, he's done |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:00 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. A) There won't be any fucking of SS or Medicare |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:05 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. He hasn't won jack, he has lost the trust of most of his supporters. (nt) |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:06 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. But he hasn't lost their vote, when the alternative is a Republican |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:41 AM Response to Reply #10 |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:45 AM Response to Reply #10 |
30. He did? Most of his supporters? Got a link? |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:06 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Why would the administration not come right out and say |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:08 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Because Obama is setting himself up as an arbiter between progressives and conservatives |
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CrossChris (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 09:36 AM Response to Reply #17 |
42. Yes, and what American doesn't LOVE the referee? |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
51. A) LOL!!! n/t |
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nxylas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:05 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Exactly |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:07 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Not true. I, and most Dems, will vote for Obama. |
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bornskeptic (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 09:29 AM Response to Reply #6 |
41. If he launches a military invasion of Canada he's done |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 09:39 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. I'll be watching for somebody to pick this up (the invasion) and run with it. |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. What if there's a reasonable explanation? |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
8. The political center is not where the Centrists are. (nt) |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:05 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. The political center wants somebody who is a "referee" between progressives and conservatives |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:07 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. If Obama was trying to be in the political center rather than a Centrist who does what Wall Street |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:08 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Obama is a political centrist. He will be re-elected easily. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #16 |
44. No. He's a Centrist. I'm not one bit concerned, nor do I care - anymore, about Obama's re-election. |
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disillusioned73 (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:55 AM Response to Reply #11 |
35. I'd venture to guess that most of Prez Obamas.. |
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vi5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
18. Well that's good to hear.... |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:12 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. He's not going to lose. Moot point. |
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vi5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:43 AM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Duly noted. |
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mazzarro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 09:12 AM Response to Reply #18 |
36. Well, I heard same type of argument during the mid-term elections |
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vi5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 09:15 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I'm assuming you mean the OP? |
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mazzarro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 09:18 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Yes indeed - It was mean't for the OP --- n/t |
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kick-ass-bob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
19. Problem is, this "center" has been drifting right because |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
21. Except 1980 |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
22. Neither Republicans nor Democrats can win the presidency without getting votes from the center. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 04:31 PM Response to Reply #22 |
45. You mean: Money from the Center. There are Zero votes there since corporations can't vote, yet. (nt) |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
23. Damn you and your reality based observations |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
24. 7th Rec at 8:30 AM (Central) |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:52 AM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Also not 1972, 1964, 1980, 1984, 2004. |
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blue neen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #26 |
48. "Far-right nut". |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 05:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
49. Hey! I remember that guy from 2008. |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
28. Damn you and your reality based observations |
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nevergiveup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
29. I am not trilled with this reality |
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randr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
31. Without the right to lifers and the gun lobby Bush would have lost |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
32. Absolute myth. Polls show the public more liberal on most issues than Presidents and most Congress |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
33. ah, the ol' myth of "the center," which provides cover for the continual rightward drift |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
40. My analysis says the Presidency is won by the candidate who can rally his base |
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ensemble (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
47. mostly agree but.... |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
50. Great post! K&R |
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Hand_With_Eyes (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
53. Translation |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:53 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Exactly |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
56. Oh preach it! |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
57. The "center" is a meaningless term....Everyone defines that on their own worldview |
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