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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:40 AM
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One of the patients of Bachman's clinic has come forward
http://www.truthwinsout.org/pressreleases/2011/07/17519/

The date was Thursday, June 30, 2011. I turned on the television and listened half-heartedly to the commercials as I busied about doing other things. All of a sudden I heard a voice saying, “Over the past few days, NBC News has learned how Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann and her family have benefited from the very government programs she denounces.”

At the mention of Bachmann’s name I stopped what I was doing and looked up. The speaker was the Rev. Al Sharpton, who was guest hosting The Ed Show. Rev. Sharpton continued talking about the counseling clinic run by Bachmann’s husband: “As the Minnesota Independent reports, the clinic has been previously accused of engaging in reparative therapy, or treatment aimed at changing one’s sexual orientation. Dr. Marcus Bachmann denies this…”

I chuckled when Rev. Sharpton said this. He won’t be able to deny it for much longer, I thought. After all, I was watching this broadcast from a basement in Eden Prairie, Minnesota, having spent the previous eight days undercover in the Twin Cities receiving reparative therapy sessions at Marcus Bachmann’s clinic.

The organization I work for, Truth Wins Out (TWO), fights anti-LGBT religious extremism and the “ex-gay” myth. We’d been receiving questions about the Bachmann clinic and reparative therapy for months, and they only grew more intense after the June 13 GOP presidential debate in New Hampshire. Like everyone else, we were aware of the rumors and that no one had yet been able to independently verify them. TWO Executive Director Wayne Besen decided that we were going to obtain that verification: I was to go undercover to Bachmann & Associates in Lake Elmo, MN posing as someone seeking counseling for homosexuality, schedule as many appointments as I could, and document what went on during my appointments with hidden cameras.

When I called Bachmann & Associates to schedule my initial appointment, I told the receptionist who answered the phone that I was struggling with homosexuality. She referred me to Timothy Wiertzema, a counselor at the clinic, and scheduled me for a June 23 appointment.

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There is a ton there and of course we have a five paragraph rule. Highly recommended to go to link.
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:50 AM
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1. K&R...n/t
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MinneapolisMatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:58 AM
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2. I was waiting for this.
K&R! This is only the beginning...
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 10:10 AM
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3. What the hell is a "heterosexual 'accountability buddy'"?
Some kind of wingman? Does this person take you to bars and talk up the opposite sex? Just...bizarre.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 10:12 AM
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4. It would be analogous to a sponser I guess
Edited on Sat Jul-09-11 10:13 AM by dsc
He would keep you from slipping.
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3waygeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 10:14 AM
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5. Probably not so much a wingman...
as a cockblocker.
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blkmusclmachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 10:54 AM
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8. Nah, he just ****s you off and then tells you how sinful you are.
Typical Christianist crapola.
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Glimmer of Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 12:46 PM
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16. Someone to help pray away the gay?
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21st Century FDR Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 08:58 PM
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25. The answer can be found in South Park, of all places.
They actually did a great job covering this "ex-gay" bullshit.....

http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s11e02-cartman-sucks
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 10:17 PM
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28. An "accountabili-buddy"
Poor Butters.

:hi:
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 09:51 AM
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39. That was a fun episode.
South Park rocks!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:00 PM
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26. A beard?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:00 PM
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27. A beard?
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 05:56 AM
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37. a regular date when no one else will come over for easy sex?

oh wait, that's called a f*ck buddy...

or could they be the same?

after all, nothing gets rid of the urge to have sex with someone than having sex with someone

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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 10:32 AM
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6. definitely worth a visit to that LINK!
thanks for posting

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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 10:40 AM
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7. I love Rev Sharpton.
nt
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 11:13 AM
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9. K&R! Think of this as payback for James O'Keefe's attacks!
It's time to get these clinics SHUT DOWN!!!

It's time to bitchslap Michele Bachmann right in her wallet!!!

It's time for revenge!
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 11:16 AM
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10. Recommended n/t
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 11:25 AM
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11. Oh my, I didn't know this:
“There is no such thing as a homosexual, just heterosexuals with a homosexual problem.”

Can't believe these people have received state and federal funds. Kudos to Becker for going undercover and exposing these people.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 12:10 PM
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13. Can't believe Mr. Bachmann is a therapist, yet lets his wife roam the streets.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 12:28 PM
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15. That fact alone should cause
some investigation into his credentials. Of course, maybe what we see is the "cured" Michele Bachmann.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 03:52 PM
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21. Yikes! I had not thought of that. She being the "improved " version.
:rofl: :rofl:
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:20 AM
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46. More like the-rapist... nt
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 08:42 PM
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24. A more accurate phrasing of their mindset:
“There is no such thing as a homosexual, just bisexuals with a self-loathing problem.”

Seriously, they tend to be bi-folks, who don't recognize that sexuality is not binary... there's a whole range between straight and gay, and attraction to men, women, and menwomen, and womenmen.

People who think that it's a matter of "choice" tend to think that way because they have *personally* been able to make that choice, they assume the rest of the world is like them.
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Scottybeamer70 Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 11:54 AM
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12. Thanks for the post.......
wow...what an eye opening article. Kudos to the young man who did the reporting.
To think that the media is giving it all they've got to put Michele Bachman in the lead.
This article might slow them down just a tad.
I hope Rev. Sharpton interviews this young man! That would be beautiful.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 12:19 PM
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14. KICK & RECOMMENDED! Michele Bachmann is a fraud and I can't wait to watch her go down!!
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 02:02 PM
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17. Not really a patient, an undercover investigator, right?
I fully support what he did but I don't think it's right to call him a 'patient'. He wasn't really trying to get 'the cure'.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 03:15 PM
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18. Prediction: Michelle and hubbie divorce.
Edited on Sat Jul-09-11 03:18 PM by glinda
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 03:20 PM
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19. Does this qualify as Fraud?
If this were anyone but a religious Republican they would be prosecuted.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 03:30 PM
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20. oh my...
I hope this is the begining of Mr. Bachmann's downfall.

thanks for posting this.

k&r
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 07:35 PM
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22. Do they bill insurance? If so, that is fraud, because being "gay" is not a disease.
Someone needs to check to see if they have been doing this anti-gay therapy on clients and billing insurance or the government for some other medical diagnosis, such as the ever popular (among shrinks) adjustment disorder. If so, that is a fast trip to federal prison.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 08:33 PM
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23. Definitely worth reading the entire article.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 11:06 PM
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29. But...but... Ann Coulter said people who believe in God don't NEED counseling...
I was so pissed at Bill Maher last night for not saying THEN WHAT IS "CHRISTIAN COUNSELOR" MARCUS BACHMANN CHARGING THE GOVERNMENT FOR??
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 11:12 PM
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30. yeah she got away with murder last night
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 12:55 AM
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35. To be fair
I expect she is a bit scarey in real life.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 10:00 AM
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41. Coulter or Bachmann?
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 11:20 PM
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31. K & R !!!
:kick:
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 12:12 AM
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32. K&R
Hoo boy. :popcorn:
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 12:23 AM
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33. Kr...good onya guys for this. What would we do without folks like you. nt.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 12:40 AM
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34. Attention Gay DUers!
I'm not a gay expert, but my mentor as an undergrad was, and he had a law, which was this: "Those who are down on gays in public, go down on them in private."

It was true for George Rekers, and Ted Haggard. And I am sure of a few other folks whom I cannot recall at the moment.

The question is this: is Dr. Marcus Bachmann gay, and has he channeled his self-loathing into a hatred of other gay people? Does he want gay people to be forced into the same sort of loveless heterosexual relationships he has forced himself into?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8oyA5JV7kA&feature=player_embedded

Well? Does he set your gaydar off, or not?

This would explain Bachmann, though: she's so crazy that the only man who would marry her is a repressed homosexual badly in need of a beard.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 10:03 AM
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42. "Gaydar"
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 04:37 PM
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43. OK
But it's apparently a real thing. Or, at least, a thing some people think is real.

http://nymag.com/news/features/33520/
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 04:51 AM
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44. It struck me funny.
No criticism intended.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 02:35 AM
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36. I don't call her Calomedy Jane for nothing. She is a walking calamity and a joke. n/t
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 09:50 AM
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38. They are performing a valuable service.
They are helping people get into heaven, people that would otherwise burn in hell for eternity. Why don't you appreciate them?


















:hide: :sarcasm:
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 09:54 AM
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40. 'spongers' - taking our hard earned taxpayers' money!
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:06 AM
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45. Kick for fraud exposure
Would add a rec but it's too late.

I love that they did this undercover mission! Is there a better way to expose the bullshit? I think not!

Julie
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:25 AM
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47. I'll toss in another kick n/t
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