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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:31 PM Original message |
Something doesn't add up -- where's the fucking civil war!! |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. Arm twisting by the WH behind closed doors maybe? |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Ahh, but whos arm are they twisting? |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
2. The blasé attitude of so many of the biggest PO supporters is eyebrow raising. |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
3. Very true. it doesn't add up. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. They have plans - do they have an agreement? |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. I don't trust that they have an agreement with Lieberman.. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:10 PM Response to Reply #17 |
50. I've been bombarding George to finally 'do the right thing' on this vote. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
4. I have been thinking so for a while. If THIS is the bill the President wanted, then he's too stupid |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
6. If Bernie says "we're working with the White House...." |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Too many Hundred Billion $ questions unanswered |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Ah no, it doesn't. And you are being disingenuous about what Bernie said. |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. sounds like you missed this........ |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:05 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. That's an important point. |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:12 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. lol @ "you defenders of this piece of crap bill" |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:16 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Please, I give you permission to print such a T-shirt. |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:18 AM Response to Reply #16 |
32. Can we verify that "most of us" assertion? |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #32 |
52. So, you'd rather have the status quo than anything else? |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
8. Well, it might me that many of these people are principled democrats first and foremost. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:45 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. OK but take the Black Caucus for example |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Well, thanks for bringing this |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:33 AM Response to Reply #10 |
41. I would not say the CBC has been roasting Obama over jobs. They are rightfully concerned |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. What is a good Democrat? Name a couple. nt |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:49 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Yeah, please define it. Is it anything like a 'good German'? nt |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:18 AM Response to Reply #15 |
33. Germans are good people |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:26 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Oh stop. I'm talking about Nazi Germans. Shame on you. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 08:57 AM Response to Reply #37 |
46. Ahhh, playing the Nazi card. So a loyal Democrat on DU is a Nazi |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:58 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. I should have put it in quotes. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:09 AM Response to Reply #22 |
29. I am been very, very patient. What the Senate has proposed is an insult to every American. If Pres |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:27 AM Response to Reply #22 |
38. No. No. I'm stunned but I can't think of a soul. WTF is that? nt. |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
12. my guess is that they're conceding defeat |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:21 AM Response to Reply #12 |
34. They don't have the will to do anything but capitulate. Democrat surrender monkeys! |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:28 AM Response to Reply #12 |
39. Well, they see how the admin pounced on Dean. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
14. nope; think every dem knows this bill is a disaster, BUT, the perceived alternative is a huge rethug |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. I hope you are wrong |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:01 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. i hope i'm wrong |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
18. Perhaps all the wild-eyed hysteria is reserved for the left-wing echo chamber. |
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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:00 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. +1 |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:25 AM Response to Reply #18 |
36. Yes, they are responsible for screwing up health insurance reform. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:35 AM Response to Reply #18 |
43. Yet another apology for failed public policy |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:35 AM Response to Reply #18 |
45. Keep telling yourself that, hope it is a comfort |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
19. You could be a victim of wishful thinking |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. well that is the most likely explanation |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:03 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Is Mary Landrieu half full of shit, or just empty from the neck up? /nt |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 01:33 AM Response to Reply #27 |
44. is that a trick question? |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
26. Yep - something stinks to high heaven... |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
35. Sure seems like an (un)civil war here at DU |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
40. Are you.. are you.. trying to give me hope, grantcart? |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
42. Kicking again...the grantcart found an acorn here, methinks.... |
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calico1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
47. Somebody explained it last night on Countdown.. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. It still doesn't add up |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I'm not sure there's more to this iceberg below the surface |
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andym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
51. Maybe a few progressives intend to try again for a PO/Medicare expansion through reconciliation |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
53. Stockholm syndrome? |
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