Would you vote for BLOOMBERG as President?

[vroomvroom]

This is an honest question would Bloomberg be considered a Left President compared to Obama who most consider a center-right president? If so i wonder if many would vote for him if up against Obama. Although Bloomberg is a former republican, and now a self-proclaimed independent, he seems like he'd be more willing to see the logic of real financial reform or health reform that aids middle class than Obama would. Although Bloomberg came from Wall Street he seems like he would be willing to get tough on them and not run scared.

But then, i think the only reason Obama has a center-right presidency style is because he is thinking of getting a big pay day when he leaves office. Just like Clinton did. So i am thinking maybe the reason he is not concerned over helping middle class at all is because he wants to make nice with Wall Street during his tenure for his own personal gain. At least with Bloomberg he is already super rich and so has no incentive. But then, most rich only have an incentive to get more money (e.g. Koch brothers). Bloomberg doesnt seem to act that way though.

To me, based on Bloombergs actions in NY, relative to Obama either Bloomberg is a radical left nut or Obama has really shifted so right that now Bloomberg looks more left. So i'm confused.

As it stands for 2012 the only reason i will be voting for Obama is because i have no choice. And yes i know the White House is counting on this as their main strategy for 2012. How very sad.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

1. Fifth.

[CakeGrrl]

2. Oh poor you. Go make yourself happy and get a primary challenger going, then. n/t

[DFab420]

3. Would you vote for {insert Repub here} over Obama?

I mean Obama has {insert talking point} and might as well be {insert talking point}. And although {Republican Canidadate} has shown over and over again that he is indeed a Republican surely that would be better then Obama and his {insert talking point}

I mean obviously Obama is only in it for the payday right? {attach Adminstration to previous one here}

So either Obama is {insert rude suggestion} or
But I'm just asking and I swear I'm not just plying republican talking points about a third party candidate against an incumbent DEMOCRATIC president.. I SWEAR!!






This was thinly veiled

[Tarheel_Dem]

26. +1

:thumbsup:

[Wait Wut]

28. /snicker

Well played!

[annabanana]

4. Oh hell no.. He's "shared sacrificing" teachers when all the money

in the WORLD is a few short blocks away..

PLUS . .He appointed himself an additional term contrary to law... by that I mean actual law, not the ginned up, twisted version of it he concocted to give it the fig leaf.

[marmar]

5. "Bloomberg doesnt seem to act that way though."

Uh huh, even as he privatizes everything that he can in New York. ...... Thanks for playing.

[rurallib]

6. without comment on the rest; there is NO WAY I would vote for

a Bloomberg or any of his ilk - like a Romney.
From what I have seen Bloomberg is no lefty.

[FrenchieCat]

7. Hell the fuck naw, I wouldn't vote for Bloomberg!

As for voting Obama.....the only sad thing is that folks are sooooo fucking blind to
the true political realities, till it ain't even funny. They shut their eyes tight
when allowing the fucked up right wing leaning corporate media to influence the electorate,
and they act like Citizen United was just a case that won't affect them ever....
but they've got their eyes all wide open, and a list of precise instructions when it comes to every fucking thing that Pres. Obama has not done and (far as they are concerned), has still to do....which won't matter anyways, cause the goalpost will just be fucking moved some more.

[mwooldri]

8. Short answer: no. Long answer. nooooooooooooo. nt

[ProSense]

9. It's really

hard to imagine the thought process that leads to believing that Obama is center right, but even harder to understand believing that Bloomberg is far left compared to Obama.

"But then, i think the only reason Obama has a center-right presidency style is because he is thinking of getting a big pay day when he leaves office. Just like Clinton did."

There's the problem.

Obama has reversed or is making progress toward reversing/improving 1990s policies, including DOMA, DADT, Glass-Steagall repeal (implemenatation of the Volcker Rule) and more. Yet "just like Clinton" makes sense?

WH: Partnership for Sustainable Communities Marks Two Trailblazing Years

NYT: (Obama's) N.L.R.B. Rules Would Streamline Unionizing

A Progress Report on the Federal Strategic Plan to Prevent and End Homelessness

The meme that Obama is center right defies logic.

[BklnDem75]

10. I thought CEO's were despised here

Then he’s describing how he lobbied Henry Paulson Jr., the Goldman Sachs CEO, to build the company’s new headquarters across from ground zero. “If my company hadn’t been started here, I don’t think there’s a chance we would have been anywhere near as successful,” Bloomberg says. “This is where the best want to live and work. So I told him, ‘We can help with minimizing taxes. We can help with minimizing your rent. We can help with improving security. All of those kinds of things. But in the end, Hank, look, this is about people.’ ” The city’s workforce has plenty of admirable qualities, but even Bloomberg can’t spin the fact that Goldman got more than $1.65 billion in city and state “help” in the deal. So he digresses into a rumination about his generation of financial executives. “Hank is a business friend,” Bloomberg says. “Most of the guys that run these big firms, they’re my age. And because of my company, there’s a credibility. They respect somebody who’s not a politician, who’s trying to get things done. And I think it’s fair to say they like the progress in the city.”


http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/features/14573/index1.html

[stevenleser]

11. Unfortunately you took an interesting premise and made it into a superficial Obama bashing OP

The interesting question is, would you vote for Bloomberg for President in 2016.

The answer for me is in theory yes, and in practice probably not. I voted for Bloomberg for mayor by pulling the lever for him on a third party line. You can do that in NY. Bloomberg is really a Democrat, albeit a moderate to conservative one. He went for the 'pug nomination because he knew he wasn't liberal enough to get the Democratic nomination in NYC, but everyone in NYC knows he is basically a Democrat.

He's obviously not perfect and when you talk about running for President, the reason why he probably wouldnt get my vote in the nomination is that there would almost certainly be better, more Liberal choices that could win.

[Starry Messenger]

12. Lord no.

His education policies are like the rampaging of a T-rex. I already dislike Obama's, Bloomberg's are even worse.

[TheWraith]

13. Are you FUCKING KIDDING ME?

"Bloomberg be considered a Left President compared to Obama who most consider a center-right president"

That has got to be one of the most factually ridiculous statements that I've heard in a long time.

Bloomberg is a right-wing, big-money Republican. He may talk a good game on a few social issues, but do you know why gay marriage almost didn't pass in New York? It's because Bloomberg pretty much singlehandedly funded the campaigns of a lot of Republican state senators who are against gay marriage. Bloomberg doesn't give a shit about his own stated principles; he's solidly pro-big-business in every way, shape, and form. He is ardently anti-any-sort-of-financial-regulation, he IS Wall Street, he tramples on anything approaching Democracy, and he is the embodiment of big-money politics and the best government money can buy. He literally buys his own reelection and the reelections of anyone he needs to bribe to stay in power.

[Ice Number Nine]

19. Obama has really driven some people batshit crazy.

Here's to 4 more years!

[great white snark]

23. +1 When you have to start of with "I'm being serious", you're probably not.

:eyes:

[southernyankeebelle]

14. I only vote for a democrat. If he change to that than I would vote for him.

[kentuck]

15. No. n/t

...

[xchrom]

16. bloomberg is a former democrat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bloomberg

Michael Rubens Bloomberg (born February 14, 1942) is a American businessman, philanthropist and politician.

Since 2002, he has been the Mayor of New York City and, with a net worth of $18.1 billion in 2011, he is also the 13th-richest person in the United States.<3> He is the founder and eighty-eight percent owner of Bloomberg L.P., a financial news and information services media company.<4><5><6>

A lifelong Democrat before seeking elective office, Bloomberg switched his registration in 2001 and ran for mayor as a Republican, winning the election that year and a second term in 2005. He left the Republican Party over policy and philosophical disagreements with national party leadership in 2007 and ran for his third term in 2009 as an independent candidate. He was frequently mentioned as a possible independent candidate for the 2008 presidential election, which fueled further speculation when he left the Republican Party.<7> There was also speculation that he would run as a vice-presidential candidate.<8> Bloomberg did not, however, seek the presidency nor was he selected as a running mate by any of the presidential candidates.

In the fall of 2008, Bloomberg successfully campaigned for an amendment to New York City's term limits law, in order to allow him to run for a third term in 2009. Bloomberg won the election on November 3, 2009.<9>





and no, i won't vote for any more neo-liberal democratic party people.

[bigdarryl]

20. STUPID ASS question Bloomberg already said he wasn't running so why bring it up

[xchrom]

21. who are you asking? because i didn't bring it up. nt

[Pisces]

17. Nope, not over Barack Obama!!!

[Ice Number Nine]

18. You'll get no Primary challenger and you'll like it.

[great white snark]

22. You have a choice for gawd's sake. Find someone to primary him.

If you can find the time away from your keyboard.

[JoePhilly]

24. Obama Bad Obama Bad Obama Bad

And Bloomberg is now a LIBERAL!!!!!!

:rofl:

[Fuddnik]

25. No,

And I wouldn't think of Bloomberg as a left candidate. Bloomberg would be another center right candidate.

[Ikonoklast]

27. Keep plugging away.

Get those talking points in there.

[phleshdef]

29. "Obama who most consider a center-right president" = Clueless about "most"

Are you really so desperately out of touch with the American mainstream that you believe most people think that?

[BklnDem75]

30. If Bloomberg does what he did in New York...

he might be a 3 term president. :eyes:

[Bluenorthwest]

31. Hell no

Just no.

[liam_laddie]

32. NEVER! n/t

[karynnj]

33. "most" do NOT consider Obama center right

Not even "most" of DU, which itself has its center too the left of the entire party.

[Zoeisright]

34. Hell no.

I will NEVER vote for any repuke because of the repuke platform.

NEVER.

[Ter]

37. He's not a puke

n/t

[TheWraith]

39. Yes he is. Bloomberg is a Republican, even if he talks socially liberal beliefs.

But he funds far-right Republicans who stomp on the beliefs Bloomberg claims to hold.

He's a Repuke through and through.

[Ter]

41. He was a Democrat all his life

He then switched to puke for 1 1/2 of his terms, then switched to indy. He endorses pukes and Dems, more Dem than puke lately. There is nothing terribly puke about him. I wouldn't even call him a moderate. He is not left-wing, but leans left. No self-respecting puke would ever support him. It would be like being a Boston Red Sox fan and wearing a Manny Ramirez jersey out in public.

Hell, he's to the left of myself on lots of issues.

[quiller4]

35. Not in a million years.

[TheKentuckian]

36. Fuck Bloomberg with a rusty dumpster. I don't trust anyone who's solution to a corporatist

is another notch up.

What is "radical left" about Bloomberg?

[awoke_in_2003]

38. no. nt

[SoDesuKa]

40. Bloomberg's Cops at the Republican Convention in 2004

Nobody should forgive Michael Bloomberg for what his cops did during the Republican convention in 2004 - they descended on legitimate protests and made massive arrests of demonstrators. The demonstrators were held in filthy conditions until after Bush had given his acceptance speech. Then prosecutors dismissed all charges.

It was simply preventive detention for the purpose of suppressing free speech. Michael Bloomberg isn't as bad for civil liberties as Rudolph Giuliani, but that's a very low hurdle.



Bloomberg had people arrested just to shut them up