I don't have much, but what I do have I will contribute to Barack Obama after this

[BernieSandersIsGod]

My god that republican debate was scary. Where those even people, or were they human like drones invented by the chinese?

[BeyondGeography]

1. Lifeless

Dreary

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

2. We've had our disagreements, but I commend you on this decision. And I'm hoping

that other disaffected voters who are disappointed with Obama will look hard at this crop of lying idiots and really think about what they are doing should they support any of these charlatans!

[MadMaddie]

3. I will be contributing to his reelection too!

It was a sick thing to watch.

[Beacool]

4. It's your money...........

As for the Republican debate, I studiously avoided it.

:-(

[BernieSandersIsGod]

6. I just caught the last 10mins and that was enough. NT

[dionysus]

11. and where have you been?

:hi:

[Beacool]

19. Hi, sweetie!!!!

I've been in Europe visiting family. I just came back Sunday afternoon.

How are things with you?

Thanks for the banky.

:pals:

[dionysus]

22. i'm good, thank you. hope you enjoyed your trip.

did you hear about the tragedy mentioned at the end of my sig line? :(

[Beacool]

25. Yes, I checked DU while I was away.

I'm heartbroken about Brien's death. We used to respond to each other's messages as he was also a Hillary supporter. No one mentioned what exactly happened to him, he was only 29. Was he sick or is that info. private? Either way, it's hard not to see his cuddly bear anymore. Life sucks sometimes...........

:(


As for the trip, it was nice to see my family and Europe is beautiful (I was in Spain, France & Belgium).

Take care, my friend.

:hug:

[craigmatic]

5. They all just had a debate essentially agreeing that they won't do shit if they win.

[JoePhilly]

15. Well, only crazy shit.

[FrenchieCat]

7. I gave $25.00 to the Obama campaign during the debates....

[rhett o rick]

8. How sad that people are scraping up to give to an Obama campaign that is expect to get millions from

corporations.

[progressoid]

9. +1

[emulatorloo]

10. Who should I give to then? American Crossroads?

[bigwillq]

12. Local charities

are an option.

[rhett o rick]

20. Give me a break. Like that's your only alternative. Support local candidates or local charities. nm

[olegramps]

14. That is the game. The Republican Supreme Court set the rules.

Are you hoping the Obama gets defeated because he can't or will not get corporate contributions?

[ClarkUSA]

18. Bullshit. Prove that the "Obama campaign" is expected "to get millions from corporations."

If 2012 is anything like 2008, the vast majority of campaign contributions will be from small donors who give less than $200 apiece. In 2008, his biggest donor was the University of California aka. its employees.

That may be "sad" for Republicans and their supporters, but it's the essence of grassroots support to the rest of us. BTW, I don't have much to give, but I am still giving. That doesn't feel "sad" to me or my extended family, who are doing the same thing.

[rhett o rick]

21. I have missed you Clark. What makes you think 2012 will be anything like 2008?

After the 50 state strategy helped Obama become president, he immediately turn his back on us and court big corporations. Pres Obama is expected to raise a billion dollars for his campaign. He isnt getting that kind of cash from the grassroots. He doesnt even have much of a grass roots campaign. But he doesnt need Howard Dean and the grassroots when he has big corporations. Big pharma owes him big.

[ClarkUSA]

30. Where's your proof it will be any different? As for your rhetoric, see Reply #29.

Link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=688451&mesg_id=689470

[rhett o rick]

31. Yes I missed you and your logic. Where is MY proof that things will be different?

Where is your proof that things will be the same? Childish, right? I would say the fact that Pres Obama, once elected, fired Howard Dean and didnt say thanks for the grassroots efforts and then turning to the corporate masters is a pretty good indication where he thinks his support is. And you apparently dont put any faith in the predictions of him raising a billion dollars. After all they are just predictions and you want proof.

[ClarkUSA]

35. No proof, eh? No surprise. I'm not the one who made the original outlandish presumption, unlike you.

I simply proffered easily Googled facts which contradicted your baseless prediction. I have nothing to prove because I made no predictions, unlike YOU.

[rhett o rick]

36. First of all you started your original response off with "bullshit". Not a good way to start

a dialog. Then YOU claimed that "if 2012 is anything like 2008..." and I asked you why you think 2012 would be like 2008. Pres Obama is an incumbent now and has clearly distanced himself from his grassroots supporters. 2012 will not be like 2008. I cant prove it any more than YOU can prove otherwise. And it is very childish to scream "prove it". That works both ways. If you have a case, present it. Shouldnt matter if I "started it".

Again, it is expected that Pres Obama will raise 1 billion dollars in campaign contributions and not from the grassroots.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/27/president-heads-to-big-apple-for-big-bucks/

"Aides note the huge number of individual donors who gave to Obama's campaign — a record 4 million. But only 25 percent of the money came from small donors who gave $200 or less, according to the non-partisan Campaign Finance Institute in Washington.
Obama will inevitably lose many of the individual donors who backed him four years ago, said Anthony Corrado, a professor of government at Colby College and expert on campaign fundraising." from http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42415155/ns/politics-decision_2012/t/billion-dollar-obama-run-moneyed-campaign/

This stuff is all over the place.

And you claim: "I simply proffered easily Googled facts which contradicted your baseless prediction." I must have missed that post.

[ClarkUSA]

38. lol! One mo' time: Prove that the "Obama campaign" is expected "to get millions from corporations."

That's what you claimed:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=688451&mesg_id=688521

Enough of the red herrings; I have yet to see a shred of proof that backs you up. To tell you the truth, I hope you're right but for you to presume that corporations will be donating "millions" has no basis at this point.

[rhett o rick]

42. Just as I thought. You have nothing. I didnt expect you to, and I was right. You cant engage in a

decent dialog. I am thru with you.

[ClarkUSA]

43. lol! Nice try. I didn't make the BS "get millions from corporations" claim about Pres. Obama.

Nice to know that some things never change.

[rhett o rick]

44. True you dont make any claims. You only stir up trouble. nm

[pot]

24. He is courting Wall Street.

Please give citations for your claim that the "vast majority" came from small donations. As for millions from corporations, none other then Wall Street. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/13/us/politics/13donor.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=obama%20wall%20street&st=cse

[stevenleser]

29. That and $.25 will get you a cup of coffee. Its not an argument. n/t

[rhett o rick]

32. And your post is an argument? If you want to counter what was said, provide a counter

argument. Simply stating that it is bullshit, isnt an argument.

[OwnedByFerrets]

34. Very sad indeed

[ClarkUSA]

41. Why? Was it "sad" when previous Democratic Presidents did the same thing?

[JTFrog]

13. K&R!

Very smart move.

:thumbsup:

[Peacetrain]

16. I am good for about 4 more years.. and I am all in also

[ClarkUSA]

17. No need to insult "the chinese". These goloms are home-grown.

"the chinese" do not indulge such nonsense from their political leaders, most of whom began their careers as engineers.

[southernyankeebelle]

23. If that doesn't get democrats to the polls I don't know what will. Scary scary scary.

[TheWraith]

26. And they are ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE.

That may have been the high water mark for intelligent debate in the Republican primary. Seriously. No Sarah Palin, no Rick Perry and his biblical crusades... that room represented, as scary as it sounds, a large number of the most reasonable Republican candidates.

Be afraid. Be very fucking afraid. Because these people are dangerous lunatics.

[DCBob]

27. Actually contributing will be more important if the Rethug candidate is a normal mainstream type.

If one of those nutjobs gets it Obama will likely cruise to victory.

[spooked911]

33. agreed, I don't see any of these people beating Obama

[stevenleser]

28. I've said it before and I will say it again, if you try to assert that there is no difference betwee

between Democrats and Republicans, if you put a Republican in office, they will happily prove you wrong.

[Hawkowl]

37. Obama neither wants, nor needs your $$

Wall Street banksters and defense contractors will gladly fund his re-election campaign. After all, that is who listens to. Why do you think only ass clowns are running on the Rethuglican side this time? Because the establishment rich are backing Obama.

[great white snark]

39. Obama is having a $5 plate fundraiser. Maybe you should go and see if it's real.

I mean, he would never do that. Report back to us.

[ClarkUSA]

40. "the establishment rich are backing Obama"? Is that why the Koch Brothers hate President Obama?

What a conspiracy theory pantload.