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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 09:39 AM Original message |
Did someone miscalculate Deans influence to liberals in America? |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
1. Well, here at DU. I'm not sure about the rest of America. And even that is a |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 09:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I was a Deaniac before I was an ObamaBot, love Obama but Deans been VERY consistant while Obama is.. |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 09:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Yes, Dean has that luxury, because he's now a private citizen. NT |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 09:50 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Unnn, In the beginning Bush was VERY VERY consistant with his campaign rhetoric then when |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 09:56 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Campaigning is always different from governing. I'm not sure what Bush did |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Bush's base REALLY crashed when Bush went left of Hugo Chavez during the bank crisis |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 08:43 AM Response to Reply #4 |
34. But he hasn't changed. |
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Nite Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 09:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. He is a centrist |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 09:50 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Yeap, Deans been consistant and his influence is big...they should give the guy an ear |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
26. Thank you for making this point. |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. It's so odd the way things change around here, isn't it?? Almost with the wind... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
2. I believe that this Administration has become so arrogant, they won't talk with |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 09:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. I've heard he's hard to reach now but don't think in the end the insurance industry will like the .. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
9. In 2004 Dean ran an innovative, energized, and damned impressive |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 09:54 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I don't think Dean needs to be a jugarnaught just be able to throw in reasonable doubt... |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 09:58 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. True, but there are distinct constituencies inside any political party |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 10:30 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. Don't worry your noggin. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 10:01 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. HI, madfloridian. Well that ought to put the lid on a few steampots. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 10:17 AM Response to Reply #9 |
21. I think he might have run the best campaign he could have |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Have to agree. I excuse Howard Dean totally for his "scream," which |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. The scream |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Not really |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:43 AM Response to Reply #9 |
30. Thanks for bringing in the history of Dean and the "media", |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 03:42 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Hi, Cha. I am finally getting around to catching up on the various |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. It's propaganda central and imo |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
10. self delete |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 09:55 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. You're talking about the Bush admin "adults" not the Obama admin "adults"...VERY VERY different IMHO |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 10:03 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Wait -- you're saying there were adults in the Bush administration? |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Well....they were old enough to drive? Does that count ? no?.......figures ....... :-) |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 10:08 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. LOL. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 10:10 AM Response to Reply #12 |
20. I self-deleted this because I may have misinterpreted your OP |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
15. LOL! |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
24. The DMC holds no real power in the Democratic Party. The DLC calls the shots. (nt) |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
29. Dean isn't influencing liberals - he's just voicing on air what we've been saying privately. nt |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
31. I think Dean sees the art of the possible very differently from Obama. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:13 AM Response to Original message |
33. Dean may be in a position, although it remains to be seen, to bring |
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