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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 10:20 AM
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Good news! We're going to stop subsidizing the gas and oil industries!!!
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 10:24 AM
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1. Those are great words.
Now let's see some real action to accomplish those goals.

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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 12:49 PM
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8. No, let's see Congress follow through.
Obama has been talking about this for the last 6 months and getting people excited to get this done. We have to wait for Congress to follow through.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 10:29 AM
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2. I hope so, but words and actions are
often different. We have to keep pushing till they do. K/R
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 12:49 PM
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9. Maybe you should call your congressman. Since it's on their ass to get things done legislatively.
n/t
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 01:09 PM
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12. I contact my Reps all the time. I even corner them in public
Edited on Sat Apr-30-11 01:09 PM by Autumn
when I run into them. It got to the point that Scott Mcinnis in Grand Junction would see me and turn and practically run to get away from me. Yes it is on their ass to get things done legislatively, It's on Obamas ass to push them into doing what he needs done too. You seem to make assumptions that people don't take their duties as citizens seriously. I do hope you have contacted yours.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:13 PM
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16. I find that the President pushes them a great deal.
The way people talk it's as if the President sits on his ass.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 10:34 AM
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3. Words matter. If we are to be successful the framing must be
correct.

Last night our LOCAL NBC station reported Obama is
RAISING TAXES on the oil companies.
Not one darn word mentioned about the Corporate Welfare(Subsidies)

We continuously permit the Republicans to set the stage
and frame everything to their advantage.

I am not being critical. I am trying to be helpful
to our side.

Raising Taxes is not the best frame, even if it is big business.

Cutting Corporate Welfare. The Democratic Party of course
is above such talk.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 10:57 AM
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5. Excellent post. n/t
:thumbsup:

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 04:39 PM
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15. Will people really
care about increasing taxes on corporations (oil companies) that pay no taxes?

The OP is about subsidies (yes, corporate welfare), but these companies, in fact, pay little to no taxes. They should be called out specifically on that issue.



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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 10:55 AM
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4. Hope so. But we have it get it through the PetroCorp-Loving Rethugs in the House.
That wont be easy.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 12:50 PM
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10. Finally someone who sees the real problem! n/t
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 11:47 AM
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6. Then they'll just raise prices to compensate
It's what they do. IT"S ALL THEY DO!


The prices are gastronomical! (Hey, can I coin that phrase?)
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 08:45 PM
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19. They can't raise prices because of the COMPETITION!
:rofl:
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 12:46 PM
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7. This is just Obama's way of sending a message to the oil magnates
that it's time to decrease the price at the pump again. Nothing else will be done once the price of gas is at around 3.50/gal or less.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 12:52 PM
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11. i'll believe it when i see it.

lol, been there, done that. don't believe a WORD this administration says, at this point.

on the other hand, i'm all open to pleasant surprises. come on, Obama, surprise me.
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Hotler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 01:41 PM
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13. Think about this....
Edited on Sat Apr-30-11 01:44 PM by Hotler
If O is for it and Bohner is for it then something is up. They'll find someway to shovel cash out the back of Washington into the back door of big oil. Think of TARP. Out the back door of AIG into the back door of Goldman. Out the back door of the Federal Reserve into the back doors of European banks.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 01:49 PM
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14. He should have done this while we had a Democratic Congress
Now that it is Officially Campaign 2012,
he needs to sound like a Populist,
without the downside of actually doing something for the Little People.

I know,
YOU know,
Congress knows,
the Oil Corps know,
and Obama knows
that this is will go NOWHERE while Republicans control the House,
but it is great Kabuki for Campaign 2012.


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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 08:24 PM
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17. The oil and gas companies get a $5 billion tax credit for putting ethanol in gas.
This corporate welfare should be ended but it is not mentioned in the president's letter. Ethanol raises food prices, harms the environment, and harms car engines. It is a total failure as a policy. End the corporate welfare. All of it.
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 08:43 PM
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18. I'm not holding my breath.
I'm still waiting for them to close the loopholes to those Antigua mailbox business tax avoiders.

I just don't understand how they can't get that done - who's spending the political capital to keep the loopholes?
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 10:51 PM
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20. I thought they were chasing offshore companies?
I wonder how much has been clawed back so far?
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