Nice coverage of Obama's speech MSNBC

[SpartanDem]

:eyes: can these idiots pull the talking heads for a few minutes

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

1. I'll k 4 this detailed post...

[emulatorloo]

3. Actually it tells me everything I need to know. Lots of "commentary," not much Obama.

[flpoljunkie]

2. CNN covered it.

[Dragonfli]

4. Sounded like a republican speech, We are well and truly fucked

[ClarkUSA]

5. Yeah sure. Give us exact quotes. I have one and it's from the Miami Herald.

“What you guys are doing here is sending a message across the country that you can do anything you set out to accomplish,’’ the president told the screaming high schoolers.

The president picked Central as a model for failing schools to look up to, and flew down to Miami on a typically sunny March afternoon to deliver his message on how schools nationwide should be improved: Just follow the Central model.

Among the students who were selected to greet the president: teens who had made the honor roll, those with perfect attendance, and the school’s state championship winning football team.

“This gives me so much hope,’’ said 17-year-old Zakiya Willies. “It inspires me to always do my best.’’

Guests also included Miami-Dade School Board members, state Education Commissioner Eric Smith, state Board of Education member Roberto Martinez and U.S. Representatives Frederica Wilson and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz."

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/03/04/2097794/obama-due-to-arrive-for-field.html#ixzz1FfVzo1Bo

Yeah, that sounds so much like a "republican speech". It's a standard talking point for the RNC, too, right? :sarcasm:

[obamafourmore]

6. Yea, "Republican speech". How dare he talk about uplifting schools

And improving teachers standards. These are well known Republican ideal!

[Dragonfli]

10. He spent more time talking about cutting safety nets and freezing wages , no thought to expecting

sacrifices of the rich, you are right, it is a Democratic speech with the Ideology of republicanism inside.
No Child left behind (or race to the top as you call it) is only a way to open markets for charters so investors can make money using public school funding, starving that beast, Democrats used to know this until Obama changed what the word Democratic meant.

I really enjoyed the talk about "entitlements" and cutting them - VERY democratic.

[ClarkUSA]

12. Those are not exact quotes, just your opinion. I'll wait for a transcript.

[Dragonfli]

13. You didn't hear the speech then I take it?

Figures

[ClarkUSA]

16. I did, but I didn't get the impression it was a "republican speech".

That's why I asked for exact quotes from you. Since you can't furnish even one, I'll wait for a transcript to have a closer look, even though I found another quote:

But as Congress grapples with ways to cut the federal budget, Mr. Obama is also proposing to increase education spending by 11 percent – a proposal that is likely to run into significant opposition from Republicans. Mr. Bush did not make his views on the budget known. But as the president promoted his funding plans, Mr. Bush sat expressionless on a stool behind him, his hands clasped tightly in his lap.

“If we want more good news on the jobs front then we’ve got to make more investments in education,’’ Mr. Obama told students in a crowded gymnasium. He went on, “I want everybody to understand: Our job is not just to cut. Even as we find ways to cut spending what we can’t do is cut back on investments like education.’’

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/04/obama-and-jeb-bush-visit-a-miami-school

Again, this is not something found in any "republican speech" I know. Frankly, I think you're wrong.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

7. Do you know the meaning of "cherry-picked?"

[ClarkUSA]

8. How is what I quoted "cherrypicked"? Why don't you provide exact quotes of your own?

Instead of complaining about mine, which were properly attributed under copyright law?

I'm still waiting for Dragonfil to provide proof of her claim.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

9. What you quoted isn't (necessarily) cherry-picked...

The SCHOOL was cherry-picked.

[ClarkUSA]

11. How do you know that? He's visited schools like this across the nation.

And given the same kind of uplifting message that's inspired students everywhere. What's wrong with that?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

14. How do I know?

Forgive me.

They picked the school out of a hat.

My apologies.

[ClarkUSA]

19. Of course, the school was picked for its storyline but isn't that always the case, not just in FL?

That doesn't mean these kids didn't deserve the accolades they were given by the President today.

"cherrypicked" has a negative connotation. I don't think there's anything bad about giving credit where it is due.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

22. Every kid deserves accolades.

It's negative because it's propaganda/not representational/a sliver/an half-full glass/misdirection...


Substance
_________________
Image

[ClarkUSA]

23. Your view is cynical. One could say that about any accolades given to anyone.

Besides, President Obama was there to push for an increase in education spending in the present budget. That's not "propaganda", it's to be lauded:

President Obama and Jeb Bush, the Republican former governor of Florida, joined in an awkward partnership on Friday, when Mr. Obama visited a high school here to push his plans to boost education funding... The Obama-Bush appearance was designed to underscore what Mr. Obama hopes will be a bipartisan effort on Capitol Hill to renew the education bill at a time when he is unlikely to get Republican cooperation on many other domestic initiatives... as Congress grapples with ways to cut the federal budget, Mr. Obama is also proposing to increase education spending by 11 percent – a proposal that is likely to run into significant opposition from Republicans.

“If we want more good news on the jobs front then we’ve got to make more investments in education,’’ Mr. Obama told students in a crowded gymnasium. He went on, “I want everybody to understand: Our job is not just to cut. Even as we find ways to cut spending what we can’t do is cut back on investments like education.’’

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/04/obama-and-jeb-bush-visit-a-miami-school

[Dragonfli]

15. Do all the girls you know have mustaches?

I listened to the speech, I understand English, I was not wrighting apologetics for his words which I assume all this "research" is needed for.
Learn English and listen to what the man said, it is not rocket science. listen for yourself, why do you need me to transcribe for you?

[ClarkUSA]

17. Do all the speeches you hear by Pres. Obama sound "republican" to you?

You have yet to provide a shred of evidence to back up your claim.

I have listened to the speech and I have provided two examples of proof via sourced quotes, both of which do not sound the least bit like "republican speech".

You're entitled to your opinion but unless you back it up, expect to be challenged on it.

[Dragonfli]

20. The pre-election ones sounded very Democratic to me, I would like that Obama please.

This new one wants to cut heat from the poor, services for the elderly, food for poor children and has this strange republican notion that SS is harming the budget with it's 3.5 trillion dollar surplus, (maybe you can write him a letter and tell him SS is prevented by law from using budgetary funds, I don't think he knows).

This new Obama thinks shared sacrifice is freezing working peoples wages while allowing obscene tax cuts for the rich that add to the deficit stand.

When he wants to get elected his speeches are very Democratic.



(do you still think I am a she? you never answered)

[ClarkUSA]

21. He sounds the same to me. And you have offered no proof for any of your claims.

You'll have to excuse my for being skeptical but I've heard alot of false claims being made about Pres. Obama here so I don't take anything for granted anymore unless I know the poster.

For example, I have already debunked the "cut heat from the poor" meme with a dedicated OP. You can probably find it if you go a couple of weeks back into the archives.

Ah, you're a "he". Thanks for telling me.

[emulatorloo]

18. Sounds like maybe you listened through some kind of filtering device

[namahage]

25. Might I suggest you master the distinction between "write" and "wright"

before telling a DUer that (s)he needs to "learn English"?

[ClarkUSA]

24. Jeb served as Pres. Obama's prop for the latter's push for an 11% increase in education spending.

President Obama and Jeb Bush, the Republican former governor of Florida, joined in an awkward partnership on Friday, when Mr. Obama visited a high school here to push his plans to boost education funding... The Obama-Bush appearance was designed to underscore what Mr. Obama hopes will be a bipartisan effort on Capitol Hill to renew the education bill at a time when he is unlikely to get Republican cooperation on many other domestic initiatives... as Congress grapples with ways to cut the federal budget, Mr. Obama is also proposing to increase education spending by 11 percent – a proposal that is likely to run into significant opposition from Republicans.

“If we want more good news on the jobs front then we’ve got to make more investments in education,’’ Mr. Obama told students in a crowded gymnasium. He went on, “I want everybody to understand: Our job is not just to cut. Even as we find ways to cut spending what we can’t do is cut back on investments like education.’’

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/04/obama-and-jeb-bush-visit-a-miami-school

Sounds good to me. Teachers would do well to support President Obama. This is no time for infighting when the budget battle against the Teabagger House has been joined.

[FrenchieCat]

26. Child...doncha know....that's all we do is infight.....

then blame one person when our ass gets kicked to the curb.....
and then we act like we had nothing to do with anything.
Hillarious as hell, but it does hurt the ones we love. Oh well,
after all, it's personalities that folks are into here, not policy,
although they claim the opposite.....but based on examples,
it clearly isn't true.