"Obama has positioned himself as a soulmate for the hundreds of thousands of ordinary Egyptians"

[impik]

Obama plays Egypt just right

WASHINGTON – Republicans struggled with a pesky intramural squabble Friday over budget cuts as President Obama celebrated the remarkable rise of democracy in Egypt.

Guess who looks better today?

After a shaky beginning, Obama and his foreign policy handlers seem to have gotten this crisis right. Hosni Mubarak and his repressive baggage are gone, but America’s relationship with a critical Mideast ally and partner in the war on global terror remains intact.

Moreover, Obama has positioned himself as a soulmate for the hundreds of thousands of ordinary Egyptians who stormed the Arab country’s streets in peaceful protest instead of another American leader playing ball with an aging autocrat.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/02/12/2011-02-12_obama_plays_egypt_just_right_backing_protesters_over_dictator_mubark.html

[dipsydoodle]

1. Dream on

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[tabatha]

4. Yep, stick to the swing.

[BeFree]

5. Dream On?

The reality is that Obama did this very well.

Imagine that, a democrat who can handle foreign policy without making enemies.
And getting the desired result without firing on bullet!!

So, why the 'dream on' stuff?

[dipsydoodle]

7. If

he had said at an earlier, just a week or so back , date what he last said then it would not have come over as hypocrisy. Overall your administration were not fully supportive of the protests. There is no doubt that their earlier remarks did not go unnoticed by the population in Egypt as could be seen by twitter comments on the #Jan25 twitter site as time moved along. People don't forgive that easily.

[tabatha]

3. Something I said earlier,

Senior military commanders tapped longstanding ties with Egyptian generals to counsel caution with demonstrators.

This was totally impossible in the case of Iran.

[BeFree]

6. We might agree?

See this post of mine:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4731117&mesg_id=4731121

[grasswire]

8. do the people of Egypt not know that US has used Egypt for torture?

Do they not know of rendition, and waterboarding, and all that history of horror between our countries -- a policy that Obama refuses to repudiate? War crimes that Obama refuses to prosecute? Carried out in Egypt under the regime they despise?

[dipsydoodle]

9. Omar Suleiman torturer.

thanks to Twitter if nothing else but maybe even more importantly thanks to the way in which our own posts list on Google using the subject line.

Having picked up that's he's / he was the US's torturer if they now Google "Omar Suleiman torturer" the search currently produces 190,000 results and rising.

I'm equally sure they are aware of this in connection with the aspects of extraordinary rendition and irregular rendition / abduction :

CIA agents sentenced in Italy rendition case.

In a stiff rebuke from across the Atlantic to the policies of former US president George Bush, a judge in Milan yesterday sentenced 23 American citizens to up to eight years in prison for their part in the secret abduction of a Muslim cleric in 2003 and his rendition for questioning in Egypt, where he was imprisoned and tortured.

All but one of the 23 US citizens were identified by prosecutors in the three-year trial as members or former members of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). It was the first such trial of US citizens in a foreign nation related to the now widely discredited secret rendition activities by the CIA, part of Mr Bush's so-called "War on Terror".

While handing down the landmark convictions against the 23 defendants – all tried in absentia – Judge Oscar Magi dropped cases against three other Americans, including a former CIA Rome station chief. He also acquitted the former head of Italy's military intelligence, Nicolo Pollari, and his deputy, citing issues of diplomatic immunity and inadmissibility of evidence protected by secrecy laws.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/cia-agents-sentenced-in-italy-rendition-case-1814799.html