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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 08:08 PM
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CNN poll: Nearly half the country believes President Obama is too liberal
Edited on Sun Oct-31-10 08:09 PM by ProSense
CNN Poll: Majority believes GOP will win back Congress

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Thirty-four percent of those questioned say the country will be better off if the Republicans win back Congress, with 28 percent saying the country will be worse off and 36 percent saying it won't make a difference.

"The belief that GOP control will make things better is highest among older voters and suburbanites, but even among those groups only four in ten say that Republicans will improve things in the country," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.

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According to the poll, 46 percent of the public approves Obama's job performance, with 51 percent disapproving of how he's handling his duties. Fifty-five percent of Independent voters disapprove of the job the president's doing, with 39 percent saying they approve.

Fifty-six percent believe that Obama has not paid enough attention to the country's problems, and nearly half say he is too liberal. The public has more confidence in the Republicans than the Democrats on a number of issues, including the economy, health care, taxes, and the deficit.

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Interesting.


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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 08:13 PM
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1. Not at DU.
:rofl:

This is why Independents have gone back to the GOP. But, there's another thread in this forum, that claims Independents think he's not progressive enough? When I asked for proof, I got crickets. I mean, WTF? We all know that Independents lean conservative, and the M$M narrative has had "some" effect.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 08:16 PM
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4. People must have been a sleep for eight years
Edited on Sun Oct-31-10 08:16 PM by ProSense
"Thirty-four percent of those questioned say the country will be better off if the Republicans win back Congress...The belief that GOP control will make things better is highest among older voters and suburbanites..."

Well, 34 percent is roughly the GOP base.

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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 12:17 AM
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29. 34% are staunch Republicans
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 08:40 AM
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39. There is an interesting Op-Ed in NYT that theorizes
about similarities between now and 1910 when Teddy Roosevelt was pushing progressive ideas from a conservative standpoint.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/01/opinion/01morris.html?_r=1&hp
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 08:14 PM
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2. B.S.
Sounds like rover to me. Lets think of how to handle things like this, which we'll be seeing more of, for next 2 years, imo.

(After all, what does 'liberal' mean?)
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 08:16 PM
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5. Depends on who we're asking
Edited on Sun Oct-31-10 08:17 PM by madmax
A right of center Republican would imo say a socialist.

Wing nuts - dirty commie, pinko, dirt bag, welfare cheating, lazy unemployed worthless pos.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 08:19 PM
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7. Probably
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 08:25 PM
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9. Thanks for the link - yes those
The Likely Voter screams to me Wing Nut with superiority attitude but, dumber than a box of rocks.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 08:14 PM
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3. Because that is what the MSN is telling them
they're too busy trying to 'food on their families' to be able to pay attention to what is affecting their lives through the choice of representatives that they vote for.

Been there and was snookered. I voted for RayGun against Carter. :scared: :hide:

To this day I regret that vote.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 08:18 PM
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6. Anyone who believes Obama is "too liberal" ought to
turn off FOX News. When I see some teabagger like Sharon Angle bitching about "Obamacare" and "Socialism" my blood pressure rises. These people have no idea what they are talking about and the so-called "news" media never calls them on it.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 08:28 PM
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13. In a nutshell - 'they never call them on it'
Edited on Sun Oct-31-10 08:32 PM by madmax
The only person who can conduct a civil interview and yet not let anyone bullshit her or her viewers is Rachel. She has a steel trap mind that operates at warp speed. I've never heard her back down or lose her trend of thought, or let them get away with a bullshit/makes no sense/off topic answer. And she does it all with civility and calm. Go Rachel!
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 08:33 PM
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15. I agree. She's great. Super well educated -
Doctorate in Politics from Oxford - so she really knows her stuff. I have nothing but respect for her. Would love to take a class from her. That would be fascinating.

Wish she could be cloned!!
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 08:37 PM
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17. Seems she gets her journalism DNA
from Cronkite and Murrow. If the media wasn't corporate propaganda machines she would go far and make a huge difference in educating the masses - like myself, not too smart but willing to listen and learn a thing or three about how it works.
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 10:09 PM
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25. You got that right...only Fox News thinks Obama is too liberal /
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 08:20 PM
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8. Total crap.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 08:25 PM
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10. Duh!
The media takes the 40% from the right who oppose Obama for "being too liberal", and then to that, they ADD the ~11% from the left who oppose Obama for being "not liberal enough".

That gives the media ~51% who oppose Obama ... which they REPORT as an indication that he is "too liberal".

Sheep in the middle BUY IT ... and they too decide Obama is "too liberal".
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 08:25 PM
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11. Most of this country doesn't know what a "liberal" is. let alone
what socialism is. They stopped teaching socialism 15 years ago in hs. I know, I taught there.

people believe what the MSM tells them it is ...sadly, very sad.
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 10:22 PM
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26. Very true
I used to do political phone surveys and I often encountered people who had very liberal views based on the answers they gave but referred to themselves as moderates or conservatives.
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hollowdweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 08:26 PM
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12. The Democrats need to workon their messaging.

Really ever since Reagan the idea that gov't can't help people and that the free market will solve all problems if it it unregulated and the mistaken idea that you can have low taxes and good roads, educated kids and a low deficit are taken as gospel.

The Democrats mostly have gone on with this line of thinking. When the economy crashed there was a perfect opportunity to turn the page and discredit conservativism but they didn't. Now it's being used to hang them.

You listen to the GOP they all repeat the same talking points over and over. From the politicans to their media pundits to the teabaggers they all say the same stuff. The democrats are all over the place. They don't have a consistent message.

I hear the beginnings of a narrative emerging from people like Robert Reich, Krugman, Elizabeth Warren, marry that with somebody not so professor like as Obama more down to earth line Bill Clinton was and you'd really have the beginning of something winning.

But I predict that what will happen in the near future is the GOP will get in, be tossed out then the democrats will get back in and the GOP will work hard to sabotage them and it will go back to the GOP until the Dems get a consistent message because so many dems are blue dogs they never totally attack the GOP or try to sabotage them like the GOP does the dems.
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Ramulux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 12:15 AM
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28. They can't
As long as the democratic party is forced to pretend that people like Ben Nelson are democrats and that his beliefs are at all representative of the democratic party we will never be able to form a consistent thoughtful narrative.

Republicans are great at messaging because they all believe the exact same thing and if anyone dares to speak against the party they are smacked down and told to shut the fuck up.

The democratic party basically encompasses the entire political spectrum from moderate conservatives all the way to democratic socialists like Bernie sanders. It is not possible for a party that encompasses that wide a variety of beliefs to coalesce all those beliefs into some over-arching driving narrative.

Basically the dems need to make a choice. Is Blanche Lincoln a democrat or is Russ Feingold a democrat, because those two people do not hold anywhere near what you might call similar beliefs and to pretend like both of them can exist in the same party and share the same goals is just fantasy.

We are going to lose this election because the dems have put more emphasis on pragmatism than on principle and the American people hate that. They are willing to vote in absolute dumb-asses as long as they seem to genuinely mean what they are saying. These people have soured on the dems because they simply dont believe them anymore. The dems set the rhetoric at such a high level during the last election and then absolutely failed to govern in accordance with that rhetoric. No we see people simply not believing the democrats. Obama can come out and give as many great speeches as he wants, but if people think hes all talk they aren't gonna vote for him.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 08:32 PM
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14. I feel sick.
The abject ignorance of the American public nauseates me sometimes.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 08:40 PM
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18. Thanks.
I needed that :crazy: to balance out the idiots who says he is too liberal.
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young but wise Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 08:48 PM
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20. Wow, now this is funny.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 08:47 PM
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19. And 50% of those polled believe that....
cars can drive on dog shit....WTF is wrong with this country?
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hollowdweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 08:56 PM
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21. The dems don't have consistent messaging.

Think about this. Luntz said in the run up to the war never mention Iraq in a speech without mentioning 9/11.

Every Bush admin official mentioned it that way.

When Obama came in they said they were going to hammer the deficit issue. Despite 8 years of totally ignoring it. The dems didn't really attack them in any coordinated matter showing that they were hypocrites. Result people think the dems are the ones responsible for the deficit.

Until the dems get together and start writing down some talking points and sticking with them they are destined to win and then lose and then win.
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 09:07 PM
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22. Too Liberal?? LAWL.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 09:51 PM
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23. Yawn. How many polls did CNN do on whether or not we thought
Dubya was too conservative, hmmm?
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 10:05 PM
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24. Well, let's see, half the country is Republican. . .
Duh.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-10 11:29 PM
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27. Not interesting, SCARY. Many of these people are liberal or moderate on the issues, but...
...MSM propaganda has made them convinced that they are Conservatives.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 12:20 AM
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30. Just wait til the Republicans start privatizing social security and cutting out Medicare!
let's see how you like it fools!
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Duke Newcombe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 02:31 AM
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31. Yup. That skeery "lib'rul" media...
worth every dime the Repubs and the corporations paid for it.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 04:59 AM
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32. It's just Karl doing his job. After all, this poll smells of his stench.
The Republicans want "the left" so depressed and weak that they refuse to go to the polls. It's the only way they can get people elected. If the GOP did their politics and handiwork cleanly, none of their polticians would be in government.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 08:15 AM
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33. That's cause Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck tell them so and the corporate media echo chamber plays along.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 08:16 AM
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34. It's the media.
Just look at our media. The whacko-nutjobs have their own television station for Christ's sake. The bulk of the mainstream media leans right because it's owned by our corporate masters. It's propaganda, pure and simple, that pushes people to believe this way.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 08:18 AM
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35. It looks like nearly half of the country needs to be punished
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 08:23 AM
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36. For F's sake! 30% of this country thinks EVERY DEMOCRAT is too liberal.
Democrat = Socialist to these idiots.



We're all queers and n.....lovers to these people.

Keeps me from sleeping at night sometimes.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 08:25 AM
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37. If only 4 in 10 of the group most strongly in favor of GOP
think they will make things better, how the fluck does that result in a wave election?
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-10 08:26 AM
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38. 4 out of 10 Americans now identify themselves with the Tea Party,
according to a mention on NPR this morning.
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