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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 10:53 AM
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Unbelievable-(R)asmussen has Obama's approval at...
Edited on Tue Sep-28-10 10:58 AM by jenmito
50%! And his disapproval at 49%: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history

This pollster has had Obama at a higher approval rating than Gallup MANY times lately, including now, with Gallup having his approval at 44% and hid disapproval at 49%: http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx

What's up with that?
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 10:55 AM
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1. We are close to an election, so Ras is using his more honest polling models.
He will now be the most reliable pollster from now till the election is over.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 10:57 AM
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2. That's true...
that's what happened in the '08 election. Thanks for the reminder!
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 10:57 AM
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3. I think he is using the number to influence Dems....so they
get complacient and stay hom on election day.
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 11:01 AM
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4. Ras....he neved has nor will be reliable....he is trying to influence...
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 11:14 AM
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7. Only up until an election at which time they become almost the MOST reliable,
Edited on Tue Sep-28-10 11:15 AM by jenmito
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 11:18 AM
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8. Wrong. Ras is extremely reliable around an election. His results are very close to the the reality.
But the numbers change drastically between the times near an election versus the times not near an election. He adjusts his sampling model near an election to be more honest so that he can maintain a shred of credibility during the other times of the year that he is trying to fuck with perception.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 11:24 AM
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10. I found a link backing you up. I posted it in my post above. n/t
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 11:02 AM
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5. Ras asks a different question.
Or rather, gives more possible responses.

Adding up his "strongly approve" and "somewhat approve" columns isn't the same thing as the standard "approve/disapprove" binary poll.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 11:08 AM
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6. I know, but he DOES combine the "generally approve" with the "generally disapprove"
which is why there are different columns with different numbers.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 11:24 AM
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11. And it's perfectly fine to combine them...
Edited on Tue Sep-28-10 11:31 AM by FBaggins
... just don't mistake that figure for the same thing as the results of an approve/disapprove poll, and then compare the two. You get different responses from people when they are given something closer to a Likert scale than a Y/N selection. There could, for instance, easily be people who would answer "somewhat approve" on one poll... but "disapprove" if only given two choices.

Ras' poll is designed to feed his "presidential approval index" (a comparison between "SA" and "SD"). it's fine to point out that this poll has shown some improvement over the last couple weeks, but not to compare it directly to polls with a different design.
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Robbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 11:20 AM
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9. RAS
His numbers will start around this time being more credable.RAS likes to claim It Is most accurate.For much of the eyar Is a Republican pollster and then acts as a more credable pollster.However don't forget RAS back In 2008 has Mccain gaining In PA
closer to the election.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 12:07 PM
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12. No more polls
Even when we like the results.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 01:07 PM
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13. Feel free to avoid threads that are about polls.
:shrug:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 01:16 PM
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14. Yes I am in the process of doing that
But it's hard with so many people rushing to their DU screens to copy and paste every shiny new poll that comes out.

Unfortunately, my ignore list is growing because of these so called poll pimps.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 01:39 PM
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15. So you want to put me and others on "ignore" for posting polls?
Edited on Tue Sep-28-10 01:41 PM by jenmito
Wow! That's sad, but whatever...
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