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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:51 PM
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Repuke meme: Obama denies "the Creator" and alters the Declaration of Independence!
Edited on Fri Sep-17-10 10:58 PM by Common Sense Party
Get ready for this, the next Repuke attack meme:

In President Obama's recent speech to the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, he "deliberately" altered Thomas Jefferson's words, and left "by their Creator" out:

But over the centuries, what eventually bound us together -- what made us all Americans -- was not a matter of blood, it wasn’t a matter of birth. It was faith and fidelity to the shared values that we all hold so dear. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, endowed with certain inalienable rights: life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2010/09/15/remarks-president-congressional-hispanic-caucus-institutes-33rd-annual-a

Expect the Repukes to make a big stink about this: "Endowed BY WHOM?" Etc.

One of my Repub associated mentioned this today. I'm guessing it will be a talking point soon, if it isn't already.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:57 PM
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1. What's with your title? Should not be on DU. IMO. Pls. change it. nt
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:58 PM
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2. That's the Repuke meme.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:06 PM
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5. Then come up with your own meme. Is that so difficult? nt
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:07 PM
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7. It's not difficult. But it would have nothing to do with the subject matter of the OP.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:10 PM
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8. You inserted your opinion of the subject matter in the OP. So
Edited on Fri Sep-17-10 11:11 PM by babylonsister
do what you want. But it's disingenuous. And you're doing it to get a rise. You got one from me.

Have fun justifying your bs. :thumbsdown:

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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:14 PM
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11. Good hell! Why don't you just READ?
READ the OP! It's all there. This is the new Repuke meme. It's NOT my opinion of the subject.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:19 PM
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15. You provided a link to the WH. I hardly think that was the message
they wanted to send. If you want to 'warn' us, provide a link to those clowns who see it otherwise, instead of your interpretation.

Why don't you just chill out? Same as it ever was with the repukes, but you're spreading rumors with no backup, for no reason as far as I can tell.

Backup is good.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:31 PM
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16. My associate said this to me verbally. He did not provide me with a link.
Beyond that, I have no intention of linking to conservative sites here.

Should anyone want to peruse those pages, there are a few who are already picking up on the meme. A simple Google search shows that:

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&expIds=25657,25856,26515&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=obama+creator+declaration&cp=25&pf=p&sclient=psy&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=obama+creator+declaration&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=6f32b8af52b7e0b8
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:00 PM
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3. He pulled a "Roberts" and misquoted...
At no point in the quote did he "Deny the Creator."
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:04 PM
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4. I realize that. And you realize that.
The teabag nutcases and their media shills are going to spin this out of control.

I could be wrong. But they will seize on ANY opportunity to attack him, try to make him seem alien or "different" from "average" Americans, etc.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:14 PM
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10. The teabaggers will love this.
I suspect they will misspell it in a sign somewhere.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:15 PM
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13. Or on a tightly-fitting T-shirt.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:06 PM
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6. I'm just saying, let's be ready. Forewarned is forearmed.
Maybe we can find some instances where Reagan or Palin misspoke and left some things out when quoting from the Declaration or the Constitution.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:12 PM
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9. For example, when Limpballs didn't know the difference between the
Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution:

"We love and revere our founding documents, the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. We believe that the preamble to the Constitution contains an inarguable truth that we are all endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights, among them life. Liberty, Freedom. And the pursuit of happiness. "

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/02/limbaugh-misquotes-consti_n_171029.html
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:14 PM
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12. If I had a nickle for every republican meme the public has shat upon ...
I would be a rich man ....

Fight battles worth fighting ....
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:15 PM
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14. Let's hope so.
Edited on Fri Sep-17-10 11:16 PM by Common Sense Party
But the American public isn't seeming too...thoughtful this election cycle.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 12:18 AM
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17. Jefferson didn't believe in "a creator" either.
His view, along with Washington and Franklin, was the 18th century version of the big bang.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 01:18 PM
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21. "The God who gave us life gave us liberty at the same time." ????
That implies a belief in a creator.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 04:52 PM
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22. When viewed through a 20th century lens, yes...
But in their belief set, there is no afterlife, no reason for prayer, nor miracles, nor saviors, nor scripture, nor churches, nor religion, etc.

In their view, some mysterious force created the universe, and the laws found within, but since then, has been absent from any direct involvement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism

We now call that "The Big Bang".
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 09:14 AM
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18. Jefferson's original version didn't include that Creator reference
That was added by a spineless committee.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 01:14 PM
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20. True, but it at least mentioned "nature's god" and that we all come from
"equal creation," which the fundies are going to say implies a creator.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 04:57 PM
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23. He said that our rights derive from our being created equal
It's the line the committee inserted instead about us being endowed by our Creator with our unalienable rights that has given the wackos so much joy.
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DemocraticPilgrim Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 12:24 PM
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19. If he denies a creator he wouldn't of sworn in on bible, there nonsense is so dumb. Plus he's...
Edited on Sat Sep-18-10 12:38 PM by DemocraticPilgrim
Christian his wife bares arms. Let alone when he signed in to office he used the contemporary Christian name for the lord.
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