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Godhumor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 11:48 PM
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Do you think McCain realizes he put the seeds in place for the coming republican Civil War?
I can't wait to see him have to embrace the insanity or start verbally dueling with the Palin monster he has created. What a legacy to leave!
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 11:50 PM
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1. he will follow his same Mavericky past
and claim that he never had her as a running mate.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 11:58 PM
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2. Just the same as he claims now that he was never a maverick. n/m
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 12:09 AM
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3. Ex-actly! He realized it and promptly
forgot it.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 12:10 AM
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4. he created a monster
and they are reproducing. Damn pests!
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 12:13 AM
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5. No, I think the losses in 2006 and 2008 led to the Civil War...
With each loss, their answer was, we are not Conservative enough, and if we are just true Conservatives, Americans will trust us again. Those losses directly related to the push for ideological purity by groups like the Club for Growth. And when they decided to use that appeal to purity and created the Tea Party, which is nothing more than the John Birch society in drag, they found the ideal purity.

This isn't about Palin, she was just an Old Man's desperate act, and I think he just thought of her as a useful idiot.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 12:15 AM
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6. I was JUST thinking this. There would be no national recognition of
Sarah Palin, likely no teabagging, and no slate of Republican candidates full of teh crazy, without McCain.

The racism and zealousness have their roots in his campaign events where he tacitly tried to appeal to racist bigots in order to get elected. And now look what we have. Clearly a group of people who are insane, racist, homophobic, zealots who feel no shame and wear their hatemongering as a badge of honor.
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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 12:26 AM
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7. Sorry, but its a departure from reality.
Here's reality: After 9/11 a crackdown began on our civil liberties the likes of which had never been seen before. The government began a spending spree unparalleled in history, toward the cause of perpetual war in the middle east and total surveillance of US civilians. We went to war in 2003 with a country with WWI technology, but 9 years later, we still haven't "won". (unless you define victory as requiring 50,000 "noncombat" troops to secure, for the foreseeable future) Depleted uranium was used, men were smeared in feces and homosexually tortured at Abu Graib. On the home front, we embraced the fact that we need X-ray machines to scan us at airports, photographing out genitals "for our own good". Like a "gift", this idea was confirmed on Christmas day recently, when a yemeni man place explosives made to mimic large genitalia in his pants, leading to a terrorist attack foiled by others on the plane.

Everyday Republicans went along with this plan half heartedly, until they realized that it wasn't about conservative values at all (DUH!) around Obamas inauguration in 2008. At this point they formed a resistance group they called the "tea party". The new post 9/11 establishment immediately recognized the threat this movement posed, and tried to get on top of it through Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin, so liberals would be sure to oppose them, begging on their knees for more post 9/11 totalitarian government in the name of "moderate" rule, lest we are deprived of our genitalia photography sessions, (courtesy the forces that carried out the 9/11 coup) and our safety be threatened from those "tea party" extremists.

So now I hear you and others telling me that the tea party are extremists, to the right of Bush, and that we should embrace the moderate values of bailing out big banks (bipartisian support) having our genitals photographed at airports, and having Abu Graib be something we sweep under the carpet and "turn the page on", like the 50,000 "non-combat" troops in Iraq. Sorry man, but in my eyes, in the eyes of the people, these perversions aren't "moderate", the ARE the extreme, and ANY alternative is what we will embrace, end of story.



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Echotrail Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 12:59 AM
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8. McCain not only lowered the bar
he BURIED it when he invited the grifter Palin to be his running mate. McCain showed his true lack of respect and love for America when he brought that piece of shit onto the national scene.

Palin gave all the whackos, racists and con artists hope that they, too, could compete in national elections.
Voila! Tonight the GOP has new leaders on its ticket: a racist bestiality enthusiast and a paranoid antimasturbation crusader.

I'll never forgive McCain for his role in the decline taking place in this country.

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Umbral Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 02:01 AM
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9. Wait until he realizes that all he'll be remembered for is giving the Country Sarah Palin.
May the thought torture him to his grave.
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 02:21 AM
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10. I keep thinking back to before the election..........
...when many pundits said if McCain lost there would be a civil war in the GOP.

Now that it's here (by way of the tea partiers), it looks like it might be fun to watch!!! This looks like fun.......hey Boehner, you still like your chances for becoming Speaker?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 02:58 AM
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11. He's a very angry guy k*r
This is what happens. He was angry enough to bring her on board and he was then angry enough to slam her
when she didn't work out according to his plan.

Now he'll get pissed off because she's taken over the party.

He needs to do some serious chilling, maybe check out some new age stuff near his Sidona home. Little Yoga, body work,
and hot springs. Drop out of politics and do something cool like comedy. He used to be pretty funny back in the day.
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Hollywood Hills Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:35 AM
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12. But Sarah is his "soulmate".......
Love match of the decade.
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:41 AM
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13. Do you really think he cares??
These ego-maniacs have no honor or integrity.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 12:56 PM
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14. He made the mistake of listening to Rush Limbaugh.
Let's hope they don't stop taking the big fat idiot's sage advice.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 01:31 PM
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15. Actually, I kind of do.
It's always been my entirely-unprovable theory that McCain really wanted to nominate Lieberman as VP. The RNC wouldn't let him, so he got pissed and in typical McCain fashion essentially said "Oh, you want a conservative, huh? Alright assholes, I'll give you one!"

Basically, I think Palin was a big "fuck you" to the Republican establishment from the start.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 03:48 PM
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18. If he had nominated Lieberman
The election would have been much closer.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 03:31 PM
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16. I doubt he cares as long as he gets elected...He loves power and that's about all...nt
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 03:33 PM
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17. Probably, but he has no reason to care
He's still in the Senate and running for another term, but he really is a non-entity now.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 04:59 PM
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19. At this point, McCain doesn't realize that it's wise to lift the toilet lid prior to taking a shit.
Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 04:59 PM by 11 Bravo
Grandpa is a bitter old fart, struggling with incipient Alzheimer's.
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