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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 01:58 PM Original message |
Fight the stimulus messaging with 'without stimulus we would be at 14% unemployment' |
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Llewlladdwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. Prove it. NT |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 05:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Prove that it isnt true. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 07:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Prove what? That 2.5 to 3.5 million lost jobs wouldn't have collapsed the economy? |
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Llewlladdwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
24. You're missing the point guys. |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. Where does the 14% come from? |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 05:11 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. The CBO n/t |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 08:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Then that should be part of his argument |
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dunn (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
3. The stock market is up about 30% under Obama's policies. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
8. If you take into account those that fell off of unemployment rolls ............. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
9. we are past 14% unemployment |
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dunn (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
10. 9.6% unemployment means 90.4% are employed. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 09:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. uh huh |
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golfguru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #10 |
23. When you add discouraged job seekers, Unemployment is double |
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dunn (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 10:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. That would apply to the Depression numbers also. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
12. Umm, we're actually at almost seventeen percent unemployment right now |
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dunn (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. And that makes republicans happy. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 10:22 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Your post is exactly why Democrats lose the messaging battle. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
13. That would have worked IF.... |
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dunn (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 11:23 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. That's what the economists were saying at the time. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-06-10 11:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Actually, the economist I remember pretty much predicted this |
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dunn (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 12:01 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. The majority of economists were saying the same thing the White House was saying. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 10:33 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. You mean the economists who didn't see the problem coming in the first place? |
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dunn (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. There are those doom and gloom economists that always sees a recession coming. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 10:23 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Wrong. They can easily say, 'You are correct, but without it we would be at 14%'. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 10:34 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. They should only say that if they want to look foolish. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-08-10 06:01 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. We are actually at about 14% unemployment. Some economists put the number even higher. |
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DrSteveB (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-07-10 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
22. Obama's team said it would be 9% without the stimulus at this point |
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