Do Democrats scare anybody?

[CreekDog]

We scare nobody.

Is anybody afraid that if they take evolution out of our textbooks, we'll put scientifically sound teaching back in at twice the font size?

Is anybody in the insurance companies afraid that if they mess with people's health care that the administration and the congress will get together to put them out of business FOREVER?

Are any of the CEO's treating their companies like personal cash registers afraid that the administration and congress will either 1) put an end to that kind of compensation or 2) if they can't do that, tax the hell out of it, somehow ?

Is anybody afraid that their position on repealing the 14th Amendment will be used against them to show that they are against the very amendment that ensured equality for all Americans? I highly doubt it.

We HERE aren't too nice. But I'm pretty damned sure our leaders are.

I'm sorry but if you mess with people's rights, I'm not obligated to talk nice to you.

We have better ideas, we have defensible ideas, what gives with apologizing for them?

:banghead:

[rucky]

1. All I see is fear from their side.

We're plotting a socialist takeover, turning them gay and taking their guns, remember?

[CreekDog]

2. and the irony is that what scares them is not what we say we'll do

but what the other side says we'll do.

WE don't scare them.

[rucky]

11. Well, it is easier to fight a demon that doesn't exist.

so you have a point, there.

[GoCubsGo]

9. They are afraid of everything

THAT is their problem. Don't forget that the country is being taken over by all those scary, scary brown people and Muslims.

I am embarrassed to share a country with these bed-wetting ignoramuses.

[Cal33]

16. Nah! These are deliberate lies, and the Neocons know it. What

they don't know is that some of these lies could only take shape in
very sick minds, such as "The Death Panel." Fear may or may not be
present. The main point is that they can't stop lying. It's part
and parcel of their sickness.

[pocoloco]

3. They scare me!

When they wimp out and piss off principles.

[Jefferson23]

4. Generally speaking, capitulation is not a threatening response. n/t

[emulatorloo]

5. Trust me, I know people who are TERRIFIED of Obama and Nancy Pelosi

Very Very scared. They are fed a steady diet of fear by the FNC, RNC.

[CreekDog]

6. like i've said here, they are afraid of what Republicans SAY about us

not about anything we say or do.

i think my point still stands.

we, Democrats, as the subject in the sentence, SCARE NOBODY.

[Cal33]

17. Yes, these are the people who have been brain-washed by

Fox. And if they keep on watching only Fox, they'll remained
frightened. And there are tens of millions of such people!

[Steely_Dan]

7. Here is something I posted earlier...

...relating to this subject.

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Part I
It isn't complex at all.

I want a Party with "PRINCIPLES." I don't care if you call that Progressive or whatever....I simply want our party to have some fucking balls. I'm pissed.

Our principles are bigger than ANY single individual within the party...including our current President.

I believe with all my soul that WE are on the right side of history. I'm tired of the games people play both here and in the "real" world. We either have principles and live by them or we're nothing better than animals....(wait, isn't that a quote from "The Wild Bunch?")

Seriously...I would rather go down in flames fighting for what is right and DOING the right thing, than trying to "sneak" up on our principles...you know, three steps forward and two steps back. For me at least, that is bullshit. We have no cause to hang our heads at the alter of the Right Wing...we act almost ashamed of our principles. You either believe in them or you don't. There is NO MIDDLE ROAD when it comes to having the courage of our convictions. Let justice reign, though the heavens fall....(wait, isn't that a quote from JFK?).

I have no problem telling my new Dem friends that comfortably ride the center rail, that they are not the Democrats of my father or my father's father. They almost take pride in not upholding the VERY BASICS of our platform. Times have changed? You bet they have. And what I have seen change is that our politicians no longer vote based on their PRINCIPLES. They vote based on some back room deal and then have NO PROBLEM sleeping at night.

This country, our Constitution, everything we have been and everything we will ever be requires that we act on the COURAGE of our CONVICTIONS. Nothing else matters.

Don't get me going....


Part II

Do you know why we keep seeing people here posting the "If By Liberal" speech by JFK or FDR's "Economic Bill of Rights" over and over and over again? People are trying to find what it means to be a Democrat. These speeches are posted in an attempt to convince our friends in the middle that while there are many colors to the spectrum of being a Democrat, there are some things that are NOT negotiable. No matter what "kind" of Democrat you are, you either embrace these principles or you do not.

We are trying to find the soul of our Party. Why are we doing that here? Because it's important. If we cannot agree on the very essence of what it means to be a Democrat then we are swimming upstream at best. At worst, we are swept away in a current of mediocrity...unprincipled and held to the whims of the next sound-bite. This is no way to run a party. We exist for a reason. A very important reason. We exist to balance the scales in favor of human dignity and fair play. We are the first and last defense for the "people" of this country. We need to start acting like it again.

If we decide that the longstanding principles of our party are no longer relevant, that we need to "compromise" to get "anything" done, then we are no longer the party of our fathers. And that's okay, if that's where you want to go. Personally, I won't be sitting next to you. I have too much to do.

Maybe it's a matter of "how" we get there. Isn't that as important a factor as anything? Maybe my new Dem friends agree with our principles but disagree on how to achieve them. That's fair. Let's think about this. I would much rather negotiate from a position of strength than of weakness. Wouldn't we all. Do you think that this country would vote all of the so-called progressives out of office if we boldly moved forward. Perhaps....But so what? Yeah...I said it. So what if they do.

There was a sto...ry not long ago about a politician that voted her conscious and was voted out of office during the next election...largely based on her refusal to COMPROMISE her CONVICTIONS. As it turned out many months later, her principled position turned out to be right. In an interview, she stated that she would vote the same way again...that it was not only her right to do so, but her OBLIGATION. We need more people like this. People that have the courage of their convictions...that are not running scared. Where are these people of principle???

I could not have been prouder of our President on Friday when he upheld the position that America stands for freedom of religion...IT WAS A PRINCIPLED POSITION. I stated in a post here that while I am a critic of the President, I will at every opportunity praise him when he stands up to carry the banner of freedom as it is outlined in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. And I did...several times. Yet, the very next day, he "seemed" to back off the gas pedal. I will not argue with you on whether he "stepped back." The fact that it was an issue of discussion pretty much confirmed that at least some felt that way. I went from being so proud of him...his principled stance to being so disappointed. I would have rather him not take a stand one way or another than to "appear" to back off a principled position.

I am not perfect...President Obama is not perfect. However, I expect him, at the very least, to embrace the Democratic principles that put people before ANYTHING ELSE. It is the very least that he could do as a Democratic President. If he acted "principled" and failed, I would respect him and sing his praises for the rest of my life. He had a mandate, unlike anything that has happened in my lifetime. He had a rare and unique opportunity to change this country for the better. He may still have that opportunity. However, it will not happen unless he as well as the rest of us stand on principle.

-Paige

[CreekDog]

8. I'm sorry I missed that

but I agree wholeheartedly. :fistbump:

[old mark]

10. Rec. They are starting to scare ME...I wonder what the hell they are thinking in DC,

and sometimes IF they are thinking at all.
It seems we are at odds with those directing the Democratic Party, and they have no problem telling us that.
We criticise them because we care about the traditional concerns of the democratic Party - Labor, Liberalism, education, compassion, fairness...They disown us because they like to talk about these things but are not interested in actually doing anything real to attain them.

I have long been mystified by the lack of direction in the Democrattic Party...now it seems they have found direction, but they are going the wrong way.


mark

[bigwillq]

12. You shouldn't have to scare anyone

And, if you do, I am not sure how successful that will be in the long run.
If you're doing you're job correctly, you should be able to inspire and excite the public, not scare them.

[Hawkowl]

13. Ha!

And everyone is a pony and eats rainbows and poops butterflies! That would be a nice world, but we live in a world dominated by greedy, hateful, illogical, hairless apes.

[bigwillq]

14. Which means

most are not doing their job, even many DEMs. Sad.

[Dr Fate]

15. DLC types often TRY to scare other DEMS with the specter of "Pailin 2012", etc.

But even that does not work.

The problem is that the only time the DEM leadership can get in full-on, arm twisting, "fucking retard" bully mode is when they are attacking their imaginary enemies on the "professional left."

Even that shit doesnt scare anyone- it just pisses people off.

[styersc]

18. Democrats?

Are there any left?

[Phx_Dem]

19. I don't want a party that is "scary." Try joining the GOP if you want a scary party.