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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 01:34 PM Original message |
I might not agree with him on the war, but Obama deserves respect for how he decided! |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
1. Sorry, but if one reaches a wrong decision |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 01:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I disagree. I think he thinks he is right and has reasons for it. You might feel different. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. So anyone who makes a wrong decision deserves no respect? |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. I didn't address respect, you can respect his wrongness all you want. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Respect was the main premise of the thread. |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. You really like that smiley, I see. But it was not the subject of my post. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. Yes, the subject of your post was that the decision was wrong. I agree with you. The OP... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 02:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Are you completely comfortable with such certainty? |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
3. Like it or not, the facts are that OTHER nations ARE affected by the behavior of the U.S. |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Excellent post, and thank you for the voice of sanity. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. I think the HC Ins debate and now this make it pretty clear who controls the U.S. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 02:57 PM Original message |
P.S. That IS deliver Pipelinestan into the hands of Transnational Mercenaries who |
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BlueMTexpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-06-09 03:29 AM Response to Reply #3 |
46. Very well stated. |
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JohnnyLib2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
4. Bushco cheapened the presidency and views of it. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
5. The decision was actually politically expedient (or an attempting to be) |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
7. I agree with you on all points. |
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tyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Everyone should |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
10. oh, a PR piece impressing us with the "thoughtfulness" of the decision |
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tyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Actually.... |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 02:22 PM Original message |
what do you mean? the end result is --- escalation of war |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
26. Just more mad double-speak. |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. great! prove me wrong! you think I like blood & guts or something? (nt) |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. . |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. .. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. not NECESSARILY the same. You are speculating about the future, not only by inference, but also |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #12 |
28. the decision is escalation of war, the same "result" by "instinct" or by "logic" |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Point to where the OP said "it was okay, since it was done so 'thoughtfully.'" |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. It does not "say" that anywhere. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-06-09 05:32 AM Response to Reply #23 |
47. hey ima |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. Indeed, but from the views expressed we're apparently |
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neshanic still (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
13. So compared to musing over it with Gates at Starbucks? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
16. No, part of the delay was filled with "leaks" so as to allow the MSM to *Manufacture Consent.* |
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tyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Evidently |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Yes, I did read the article. I don't BELIEVE everything I read. eom |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-06-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #16 |
48. It takes time |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
21. Its actually worse if he studied the situation |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
24. It's not like we didn't have a chance to talk him out of it.... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. We, the unwashed masses, were not INVITED into the national debate. It was all "the professor's" ... |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. wow--"pre-orchestration"--and that is so true |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Yes, we have no power to change a fully corrupt right wing duopoly. |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
31. In other words he didn't begin perpetual warfare but rather improved it with thoughtfulness |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-06-09 03:16 AM Response to Reply #31 |
45. I agree. I think there is a great deal of spinning of an astronomically |
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Ernesto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
33. Obama does not have an easy job!!! |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
34. most everything else in his administration is off a right wing script, this no different |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. i wonder what it's like in the alternate universe in which you reside... |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
36. My comment has nothing to do with Obama. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
39. I'm satisfied that he was questioning the assumptions on which the war is based. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. If you and others HONESTLY believe the narrative above, then yes, we deserve ... |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
42. I'm sure Bush press releases touted that president's thoughtfulness... |
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Powdered Toast Man (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-05-09 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
44. YES! |
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