The ship of state is sinking

[Stoic]

While the USS Fuck You, We Got Ours circles ready to loot the floating remains. (ed. note: I should have posted this in GD forum)

[jefferson_dem]

1. Meh.

Lighten' up.

[dionysus]

3. but, there's rioting outside my window! oh wait, it's some guy cutting his grass...

[SunsetDreams]

2. I don't agree, that is all

unless you meant to post this in 2007? 2006? 2005? 2004? Any of the Bush years.

[unapatriciated]

4. There are a few million who might disagree.

http://www.gazette.net/stories/07222010/mounnew160908_32551.php

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20100721/ARTICLES/100729873

http://open.salon.com/blog/fingerlakeswanderer/2010/07/19/dear_congress_we_the_people_are_starving

[SunsetDreams]

10. Hmmm

While that might be true that some blame Obama more than Bush, it's hard to imagine how anyone could do so with a straight face.
Times are hard now, yes they are. It's hard to blame a 1 and a half year Democratic Presidency, when you just had 8 years of a Republican Presidency. Things just don't fall over night.

Thank the Gods for the 9.5% Unemployment Rate
Posted by Charles Mudede on Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:33 PM

What makes the current 9.5% unemployment rate look good?

How about one that reaches 16.5%? A paper by Moody's economist Mark Zandi and Princeton University scholar Alan Blinder contends we would have reached that threshold had the government not poured trillions of dollars into the economy after the financial meltdown of 2008.

The paper, called "How the Great Recession Was Brought to an End," uses a Moody's Analytics framework to sketch out what might have happened if the Treasury failed to bail out the banks, Congress failed to pass a stimulus program and the Federal Reserve decided not to flood the economy with cash in late 2008.

Though the true costs and benefits of these moves can't possibly be measured, count Zandi and Blinder as supporters of the efforts led by policymakers including Fed chief Ben Bernanke, former Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and current Treasury head Tim Geithner, then at the New York Fed.

.....

Really, the GOP cannot return to power at this or any other future moment. The Dems have to make it clear to Americans that the situation should be, and can still be, much worse. The GOP's economic program is nothing but hot ideological air.

More here: http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2010/07/28/thank-the-gods-for-the-95-unemployment-rate

What paper is Charles Mudede referring to?

How the Great Recession
Was Brought to an End
JULY 27, 2010

Prepared By
Alan S. Blinder
Gordon S. Rentschler Memorial Professor of Economics, Princeton University
609.258.3358
[e-mail]
Mark Zandi
Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics
610.235.5151
[e-mail]

here: http://www.economy.com/mark-zandi/documents/End-of-Great-Recession.pdf

Can things be better? Of course they can. It could have been much worse though.

Poll: Obama's economic policies better than Bush's

From a Pew/National Journal poll:

What do you think would do more to improve economic conditions in the country over the next few years?

46% Following the economic policies of Barack Obama's administration
29% Following the economic policies of George W. Bush's administration

Which comes closer to your view about the tax cuts passed when George W. Bush was president?

30% All of the tax cuts should remain in place
27% Tax cuts for the wealthy should be repealed, while others stay in place
31% All of the tax cuts should be repealed

The survey of 1,004 adults was taken July 22-25. The margin of error was 4 percent.

here: http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/archives/215894.asp

[TheKentuckian]

22. Obama's policies being more approved of more or even being better than Bush's is not very important

in evaluating if they are good enough to actually keep the ship afloat and get her sailing while keeping all hands alive and fit for duty.

Fucking Reagan's polices were better than that multi-generational criminal monkey and his Sith Lord uncle's policies. Nixon's were better. For crying out loud, on the whole friggin Hoover probably had a better game plan.

The D and high F kids don't go on the honor role because a couple of kids were too stupid, lazy, or disengaged to put their name on the paper and got zeros, several more actual got their name on and got a point, and a few more got a question or two.

The market doesn't have the solutions, the market is the principle problem. It and it's cult like devotees of all political stripes.

[Aramchek]

5. not very stoic, are you?

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

12. Truly...

A stoic would shut the fuck up and stop annoying people.

[dionysus]

19. !!!!

:spray:

[monmouth]

6. Don't believe it....n/t

[Tarheel_Dem]

7. Sounds like your ship sank a long time ago. "Stoic", indeed. (nt)

:eyes:

[dionysus]

20. thems fightin' woids!! put up yer dukes!11!!

[Tarheel_Dem]

21. Dude, you're nuts!

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[JNelson6563]

8. This is almost lucid.

Got another vintage? This whine's a bit stale, also very thin with no legs.

[Number23]

23. lol! And the fact that he typed "whoops! Meant to put this in GD!" says it all

Won't get those 150+ recs here I don't think... :)

[Peacetrain]

9. Oh for the love of Mike.. spare me ..sure those over 250,000 will

have their tax rates go back to the 1980's, and they were swimming in it then..wealth.. so just spare me

[unapatriciated]

11. I didn't think the op was worried about that

but I hope you are right about the end of b* tax cuts.

[azmouse]

13. aaaahhhhhhhhhh!!!!11!!!1!!

[SunsetDreams]

14. LOL

where did you find that emoticon?
That one literally made me laugh out loud.

[azmouse]

15. I've had it for a long time.

I got it from someone years ago here on DU. Please feel free to use it. :hi:

[SunsetDreams]

16. Thanks,

that one is funny :hi:

[SidDithers]

17. Unrec...nt

Sid

[opihimoimoi]

18. The USS AMERICA is Fine and seaworthy....guns filled w good ammo

Sails set for tail winds....

Released from GOP Reef 18 months ago and refurbished at Mare Island....

She is Magnificent

[John Agar]

24. Actually the USS America was decommissioned and sunk as a target in 2005.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_America_(CV-66)