MSNBC: Dems Showing Signs of Battle Fatigue

[radhika]

Here's an essay on MSNBC's website. I agree, and I feel it too. So do my activist friends. No sentient being can sustain his/her morale when daily faced with a hate-filled coalition of Big Money, Big Racism, Big War, Big-Lie-Neocons and Global Corporations who just happen to dominate the complicit media. Worse, we realize that no one the PEOPLE'S SIDE holds a leadership role in governance.

So, what is the remedy for battle fatigue? Stop fighting. Put down the nunchuks and sit crosslegged on the floor and relax. Take a vacation, and just keep watch. At some point, it will all be too horrible to bear. Then maybe, change will be possible. Before then, it's all storm and fury signifying nothing.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38229525/ns/politics/

[fascisthunter]

1. well... take this with a grain of salt... this is corporate news speak

however, if the dems want to win and hold the majority in both the House and Senate, they better move to the left. If they don't, they will lose...

[liberal N proud]

2. Is that short for "We have them right where we want them" from the media?

[FrenchieCat]

3. Lord know they have been spreading enough negativity (some here as well)....

to get the job done!

That's ok! The media can keep lying its eyes out,
and folks can keep downgrading everything and anything
this President does.

At the end, some will say they were right, and they we all get to pay.

[villager]

4. nothing will change, fundamentally, until the system collapses...

The only thing Dems can offer -- being captives of that same system -- is a slightly slower rate of collapse, a "kinder, gentler" hitting bottom, that might (or would've) allowed a little more time, for a few more alternatives...

The idea is not to transform the system, since it's too fundamentally corrupt, but rather, to outwit and survive it.

[HughMoran]

5. Interesting

there is a theory that certain on the left are hoping for the system to 'collapse' so 'real changes' can be implemented. Are you in that camp?

[FrenchieCat]

6. If folks who are having their "way of life" threatened in the Gulf still support Deep Sea Drilling,

what makes anyone believe that a majority of folks would be
in the majority agreement to make real change, no matter what position
they find themselves in? Hell, they are now saying
that they need Republicans elected to keep Obama in check!

I laugh at those folks who want the system to fail,
and have theorize as to what would happen if it did.
They are full of it.....and that's scenario is what they wish
would happen, but it won't.

[karynnj]

16. Makes you wonder if they have botherd to read anything about theSenate

which certainly is a "check" bordering on a road block.

[FrenchieCat]

17. They just suck up whatever their master, the media, tells them.....

then they spit it out around the water cooler.

[JoePhilly]

7. If we get that collpase now, the GOP will regain power and accelerate it.

And I do think some on the left want exactly that ...

[HughMoran]

9. It certainly seems that way at times

[villager]

10. I don't "hope" for it -- I just don't see any alternatives to it

Especially when the one party ostensibly looking after the "people's interests" is busy kowtowing to corporations, banks, GOP obstructionists, et al...

[HughMoran]

11. Sounds rather "doom and gloom"

I can't see through those glasses.

[villager]

12. No, I guess you can't

n/t

[HughMoran]

13. Thank god for that

n/t

[villager]

15. Yes, the Titanic needs a good band

On the other hand, collapse doesn't have to be an entirely bad thing -- it's just that current system, in its current form, is untenable, and one way or another, can't hold.

[ceveritt]

8. First off, ...

fascisthunter is correct. It is just corporate newspeak.

However, if indeed, as the article suggests, the Obama administration and congressional Democrats are showing signs of so-called battle fatigue, my heart does not bleed for them.

Fighting—for what is right, for us—is why they were elected. Republicans have long been tireless in their defense/offense of their own beliefs. That is hardly news. Elected Democrats can hardly be surprised at the opposition. If they are truly surprised, then they are truly clueless and stupid.

Besides which, when these same elected Democrats have to deal with the daily reality of being unemployed, and every wretched thing that attends such a condition, then they can complain about battle fatigue. What they are supposed to be doing isn't a patch on what many of us here have to deal on every single day.

Mind you—I've specifically mentioned elected Democrats. Nothing I've said here in any way applies to people who took the time to work tirelessly to ensure Democrats got/get elected. If the grass-roots campaign workers have battle fatigue, then, by Gxd, they earned it. They by no means deserve it; but they came by it righteously, and deserve our sympathy. If they've the resources to relax or take a vacation, then good. Wish some of the rest of us could do likewise

Elected Democrats, however, have absolutely nothing to whinge about. They need to grow a spine and get on with it. That's what they are supposed to do. They're not supposed to whinge about battle fatigue barely two years into their job.

[karynnj]

14. Completely wrong - when the forces appear alligned against you

BUT they do not seem to have the impact they had in 2002 or 2004 - the need is to stay calm, learn the issues as best you can and be prepared after labor day to use that knowledge to challenge the lies (politely) to friends, family, neighbors and co-workers. For me, it means ignoring my background that would have led me to politely stay quiet in many of these situations.

You have to think that for anyone you can convince that the lies are lies - you help stop the word of mouth spread of the lie.

I wonder if things like that are written to get people to give up and stop fighting. Instead - look where we are. If anyone should be demoralized it should be the republicans. The fact is that Obama has won many victories - most notably healthcare - that they fought us tooth and nail on. The media declared it dead at least a dozen times, but we won.

Look at their spinning - how many times have we been told Obama's approval is tanking - given the number of times I heard it and NEVER heard he was doing better - he should be at 26 like Bush was.

CHEER UP!

[Cosmocat]

19. Rule number one of the MSM - dems in trouble ...

you see this kind of crape written 10 times more for Ds than Rs ...

ALWAYS, ALWAYS negative frame what is going on with the Ds, while positively framing the Rs situation ...

[DCBob]

18. Yes, it does get tiresome when idiots attack from both sides for opposite reasons..

neither of which are correct. But I think nobody is giving up... thank God.