Will Joe Biden be on the ticket in '12

[pundaint]

I'm guessing Joe must be pretty fed up with things by now.

[treestar]

1. The daily thread on this

unlikely development is here.

[wordpix]

2. Better question: Who will oppose Obama for presidential nomination in '12?

Markey has been great on the BP issue, for one. Whitehouse is always great and then there's the perennial Dennis Kooch.

[saltpoint]

6. I see no challenge to this president in the primaries.

I believe it would be a fool's errand.

[mopinko]

39. especially for kooch

he might as well take his ball and go home after obama mops the floor with him, because a whole lot of people will never forget.

[karynnj]

49. Markey is wonderful and always has been, but he can't run as a representative

and President. He likely will stay right where he is.

[quiller4]

60. I don't expect a primary challenge to Obama in 2012 and I

think Markey has his eye on a senate seat.

[Botany]

3. Will Joe Biden be on the ticket in '12

Of course he will .... not unless he has a health problem.

[monmouth]

4. Absolutely Joe will be on the ticket and I greatly doubt POTUS will

have a challenger. All is well.

[Botany]

7. psst! Obama is doing a good job and Biden has real work to do

BTW I saw an interview w/ Joe Biden and he was asked does he disagree w/ the President
on somethings and he said, "In private I speak my mind w/ the President and he is fine
w/ that." rough quote

Both Biden and George Mitchell are working very hard on the Mideast too.

[monmouth]

8. Would love to be a fly on the wall during those little talks...LOL..n/t

[awoke_in_2003]

44. damn, Joe looks pissed

:rofl:

[saltpoint]

5. I hope so.

I think he will.

'Have always loved Joe Biden.

[Jennicut]

9. Do we have to discuss this daily? Biden is here to stay and is not stepping down, leaving, etc.

Sheesh.

[goclark]

13. It amazes me why there is even discussion on a ticket for '12

The world can turn on a dime and this is a 24/7 news cycle.

Why are some so concerned with who will be elected in the next election?

[pundaint]

16. In my case it is in the hope that a sharp direction change will occur

so that I might be able to vote for the Democratic candidate again in '12. As it is now, I wont be able to. I only vote for promises once per candidate.

[goclark]

21. Interesting ~ the candidate must do as you say and think

I am a Senior and have voted for many a candidate.

None did exactly what I think would have been the best thing to do on every issue.... that includes Clinton, Kennedy, Carter. Johnson and JFK.

When I look back on each one, I now view the totality of their work and I am more than pleased that I voted for each one.

Since I am not sitting in their seat, didn't walk in their shoes and gaining information that they received on a daily basis (not talking about what the news is reporting) I appreciate what they did for our country.

I can not say that for Bushes, Reagan etc.

[pundaint]

25. No, the candidate must do as He says during the campaign, that caused me to vote for him in the

first place. I don't get the satisfaction with the Clinton vote either. Nafta, moving american industry to China, the final straws of financial de-regulation, and a widening disparity between the wealthiest and the poorest doesn't equal a list of accomplishments I'd be happy with.

[treestar]

29. So just checking on this, you are not upset about Afghanistan

that would seem to follow that you could deal with that.

[pundaint]

34. What is the goal there? If I knew the goal, I would then try to figure out if it was achievable.

Grinding up American servicemen, and pissing away hundreds of billions of dollars without an objective is unacceptable. Americans are killing civilians faster than fighters, and the whole process has become so inhumane, that our forces are playing video games with unverified human targets. So you are right, that isn't working for me either. And the current involvement goes beyond anything proposed during the campaign.

Perhaps you can define our mission there for me.

[dionysus]

54. it's just premature "obama's gonna get primaried and lose" fantasies from the bitter malcontents.

regular as taxes and the mail.

[volvoblue]

10. A year and half in and suddenly everyone is focusing on Biden

What's with that.
Biden is vp. He and Obama get along well and Biden is doing some substantive stuff.
We sure love to undermine ourselves

[saltpoint]

11. There'd been widespread speculation that Joe was going to step down and

fill in on the lead vocals on a Doors reunion tour.

Still no word on tour dates...

[treestar]

30. ah, so that's where it came from

and some say Jim Morrison could not be replaced.

[saltpoint]

32. Yep. I thought Morrison was irreplaceable myself until I heard a

rehearsal tape of Joe Biden doing "Roadhouse Blues."

Made a believer out of me!

:hi:

[karynnj]

50. LOL The real inside scoop! (and best response to this op)

[saltpoint]

62. - - -

:hi:

[OHdem10]

12. Sally Quinn predicts that after coming election Joe and Hilary will

change places, putting Hilary as VP and preparing her to
run for President after Obama's second term. Hilary would
continue Obama's vision.

I found this interesting.

[saltpoint]

14. She'd be a bit long of tooth for a 2016 presidential run, at least in practical

terms.

This is Quinn's prediction, and it might happen, but I somehow doubt it.

[Jennicut]

15. Miss Socialite herself. Like anyone in DC talks to her anymore.

[saltpoint]

17. Hi, Jennicut.

I could see Biden maybe resigning for the lucrative Sham-Wow contract. We'd tune in after-hours cable and there Joe would be, hawking Sham-Wows.

But other than that...

:hi:

[Jennicut]

19. LOL. That would be about it.

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[IndianaGreen]

18. The folks in the Beltway cocktail circuit are having one too many martinis

I am still waiting for Doug Brinkley to come through with the extraordinary claim he made on CNN Anderson Cooper 360 that the government was going to announce a major reconstruction project for the Gulf that included rerouting the Mississippi River.

[treestar]

31. Some people just cannot let go of the idea of Hillary being President

Even after she herself has.

[Mass]

33. Sure. Ah, the Village wisdom,

More than unlikely, IMHO, but Sally Quinn would say anything to be remarked.

[Joe Bacon]

36. Who cares what the Happy Homewrecker says?

Really, there is no bigger self-centered shrew in Washington DC than Sally Quinn.

[tledford]

37. Back in the Fall of '08 I thought it made more sense to make Clinton VP and Biden SoS. eom

[WI_DEM]

47. Sally Quinn? She's so 1972.

[JTFrog]

51. LOL.

[avaistheone1]

55. What vision is that?

[AspenRose]

58. Wishful thinking

[quiller4]

61. and Ms Socialite has credibility because?

[Fearless]

20. Based on what evidence is he fed up?

[doc03]

22. Joe Biden will be dumped somehow, maybe for health reasons

he just talks to much sometimes. After this gulf oil spill mess and how Obama let the Republicans capitalize on it I look for at least 6 challengers for Obama. You take the endless wars, the economy and a health care plan nobody even Democrats supported I think Obama is a one term President. Of course he could turn it around if he fired some of his staff anfd took charge.

[WI_DEM]

48. No he won't. And Democrats overwhelmingly support the president. Look at any poll.

[dionysus]

53. ROFL. "I look for at least 6 challengers for Obama." you guys are hillarious.

[doc03]

56. You don't think he will have any challengers? I have seen

a couple editorials and a cartoon yesterday calling him the worst President ever I don't think that myself but a lot of people do. Take the oil spill, that was a gift from God for the Democrats and somehow the Obama Administration has let the Republicans exploit it to their advantage.

[Inuca]

23. "pretty fed up with thinngs"?!?!??!

what on earth does that even mean????

[saltpoint]

27. It may have been the thing with the beer summit...

Joe was holding out for Pabst but the Prez ordered other brands.

Beer grudges can run awful deep.

:hi:

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[Aramchek]

26. Joe's not going anywhere.

[Mass]

35. Not going anywhere, but I am not surprised people would try to get rumors started.

[Milo_Bloom]

38. Of course he will... what on earth could he be fed up with?

Corporate giveaways and war have been at the top of his vocabulary for years.

[pundaint]

40. That question may be asked, but not answered.

[Lindsey]

41. I can't imagine he wouldn't be unless there's a health issue. He's

a strong guy who speaks his mind. I am more impressed w/Vice President Biden than I ever imagined I would be.

[Hekate]

42. Why not? No one ever really says why he wouldn't or shouldn't be on the ticket.

You are "guessing" he's fed up, but what kind of evidence do you have?

Hekate

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

43. What the fuck?!?!?!?!?!

[Politics_Guy25]

45. Oh good god

This same BS went on in 2004 when Kerry was 15 points ahead of Bush. Cheney's doomed!! He's gone! I tell ya. Gone! Mccain will be the VP! Or better yet even Colin Powell! Ummm...didn't quite turn out that way. And that is a case where the president was in trouble for listening to everything that his VP told him to do! Our President would have to be 30-35 points behind in the polls to dump Biden. Even trailing by small double digits is not good enough of a reason for him to do it.

There is no way in hell that Joe Biden is not on the ticket in 2012 absent his dying or a family member close to him dying.

In fact, there is more chance that he will be at the top of the ticket than not at all (if he wants to run again that is) and the odds of him being at the top of the ticket are pretty much nil. So, there you go.

BTW, why this co-ordinated attack against Joe all of a sudden??? He's a great VP. Also, how the hell would dumping Biden get rid of any perceived Obama 2012 re-election chances pitfalls? If 2012 isn't looking great for our president, it would not be Joe's fault at all and getting rid of him would not fix the problem. This is infuriating.

[AspenRose]

59. Coordinated attack is right. It's pretty obvious

and pretty desperate.

[WI_DEM]

46. "I'm guessing Joe must be prety fed up with things by now." Stupid.

[dionysus]

52. oh jesus this shit again...

[AspenRose]

57. This is the 3rd thread I've seen on this topic in as many days.

Barring health or extinuating circumstances, Joe isn't going anywhere.