Obama has had it easy

[HughMoran]

He got handed such a stable country with very few problems, I can't believe he hasn't fixed everything yet.

What a slacker huh?

Economy - SHIT!

Housing Market - SHIT!

Automotive Industry - SHIT!

Health Care - SHIT!

Climate/Global Warming - SHIT!

Energy Solutions - SHIT!

Lending/Banking Institutions - SHIT!

Social Security - SHIT!

Oil Industry - SHIT!

Unemployment - SHIT!

Guantanamo - SHIT!

Iraq War - SHIT!

Afghanistan War - SHIT!

Chinese currency manipulation and trade deficit/lost jobs - SHIT!

Republicans willing to pitch in during a crisis - SHIT!

Blue Dogs - SHIT!

Liberals & Progressives who have his back - SHIT!

Media support during a national crisis - SHIT!

Liberal media (WTF is that?) - SHIT!

Israel wanting to work toward peace - SHIT!

Middle East - SHIT!

Your retirement fund invested in stocks - still mostly SHIT!

Natural and man-made calamities - SHIT!

Welcome to Shit-Sandwich.com http://www.shit-sandwich.com/2006/09/what-is-shit-sandwich.html



I did hear that the airline industry was doing well, so he has apparently done one thing right. :eyes:

I think I'll pass on running for President.

[Jennicut]

1. I turn 35 next year. Couldn't pay me enough to do this to myself.

I get the prestige and ability to make money afterward but during it...no way.

[vaberella]

2. So true. n/t

[Cant trust em]

13. I've thought that so many times in the last year and a half.

The things that are on his plate make me want to cry. And it's essentially an 8 year commitment. It would kill me.

[tabatha]

3. Thank you for reminding people.

When he bailed out the auto industry ---- then the government was taking over the auto industry... bad.
When he was "slow" on the oil spill --- then the government must do more...bad.

[jgraz]

4. How much of that was already in place when he accepted the nomination?

If he wasn't up to the job (and it seems that he isn't), maybe he should have let another Democrat take the reins.

[HughMoran]

5. I think he's up for it

Perhaps you're not?

[jgraz]

6. What does that even mean?

I'm not up for what? That doesn't make any sense.

Maybe you should put me back on ignore. I don't think *you're* up for a sensible conversation.

[HughMoran]

8. Makes as much sense as your post

& that's the point.

I took you off ignore - deal with it.

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[scheming daemons]

7. He's had amazing progress on almost all those shit sandwiches

for just 18 months of work.


Damn amazing, actually.

[jgraz]

9. Respectfully suggest you are too easily amazed.

Every one of those "shit sandwiches" is an opportunity for bold, historic leadership. So far, those opportunities have been squandered.

[scheming daemons]

11. respectfully suggest that you have standards that cannot be met

...and so there's no way he could be anything other than a failure in your eyes.



Fortunately, the lens of history takes a longer view than the knee-jerk reactions of the moment.

[jgraz]

14. Yeah, that's total nonsense.

But I'm really glad you feel so good about our president. How wonderful that must be for you. :eyes:

[HughMoran]

24. Can you believe the nerve of these 'nonsensical' Democrats who support their President

Who'd support the President of that Party of ass holes anyway?

Sickening! :puke:

[jgraz]

26. What's nonsense is cheering policies that will get Obama defeated in 2012.

That's some real good supportin yer doin there, Skippy.

[HughMoran]

31. Rah! Rah!

Do I have nice legs?

Do you bring anything to the table other than OMG! I can't believe anybody could be so gullible as to support the President of the party they've belonged to their entire life. I only support me. It's all about me. I got mine. Call me a Republican! :patriot:

[jgraz]

32. I've missed you, Hugh.

You don't let little things like sensible discourse or parseable syntax box you in. :rofl:

[HughMoran]

34. The correct response was "Sis Boom Bah!"

get with the program, bro.

[gateley]

12. I think it's looks too easy to us out here what the realities are that a President

actually faces. I've always thought that most Presidents get into the Oval Office, learn what's REALLY at stake and think WTF was I thinking??

The government is a mess. I don't know if anyone could actually do more than chip away.

[jgraz]

16. Then why do the Repugs ALWAYS do much, much more than chip away.

The Repugs can run roughshod over any issue, yet when Democrats get in power all we hear about is how *hard* it is to get anything done. Why is that?

[gateley]

17. Funny I was just thinking that as I typed the post. That all Bushco did was

get the laws/Constitution changed whenever they wanted. And thinking back to Reagan it's pretty much the same. So you have a point. And I don't have an answer why we're so reluctant to play dirty. What do you think?

[Cant trust em]

19. Because American politics are based on fear of losing something.

Not really the hope that things could get better.

It plays right into Republican hands.

[gateley]

35. Well that's pretty much human nature I guess - makes sense. nt

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[thelordofhell]

80. Because it's easy to destroy something

And it's not so easy to rebuild it afterward.

[dionysus]

38. yes, if only he was tuff and smart and lived in a magic shoe like DK, then by gum he'd be

up to the job!

:eyes:

[treestar]

39. that's not the point

The point is to show how OTT and unreasonable it is to cry about not getting everything you want instantly from the President alone - this is not a dictatorship. Too many act like it is, we just got the dictator who would do what we wanted.

Bush claimed outrageous powers, but ultimately, he did not have them.

[HughMoran]

41. Right.

Oh, and to show how utterly fucked up the country was when Bush handed the 'shit sandwich' over to Obama.

[jgraz]

54. You just keep beating that dead pony.

Seriously, you know you're being disingenuous, I know you're being disingenuous, and everyone reading this knows it. Cut it out.

Once again, for the new folks: the problem isn't that we're "not getting everything you want instantly from the President alone", it's that Obama continually misses opportunity after opportunity to actually LEAD this country in a new direction. And then he lies about what he's doing (see: Public Option).

[liberalmuse]

15. I'm glad I waited until now to scan the blogs..

So apparently President Obama did not waive his hand and fix everything, so the liberals are pissed off at him. AGAIN. Dear god, it's so fucking predictable, and we wonder why he has to compromise? It's because progressives get upset when their agenda is not put into place immediately when a Democratic President is elected, so they don't come to the polls to vote, and then we get a Republican in there to fuck things up all over again. He's one man, and I just don't believe the shit I read day in and day out bashing the ONE PERSON who is in a position to precipitate change, if only he had some support. I wouldn't blame him if he didn't run again. Who needs this shit - one side is a bunch of racist asshats from the old, white, patriarchal order who thinks he's a Muslim Hitler, the other side expects him to be Jesus. He can't win. Rant over.

[Cant trust em]

18. It's always a wise choice to come to the blogs last.

Take in what you see or read. Think about it. Then let other people chime in. If you start the other way around, other people wind up infecting you with their intensity and negativity.

At least that's been my experience.

[HughMoran]

25. It was a good rant though!

Let off a little steam any time, many of us can relate to the frustration you're feeling. :hi:

[Bobbie Jo]

21. Recommended.

:kick:

[FrenchieCat]

22. It's like people, even the ones who deem themselves so smart have short memories,

and must be hard of hearing!



"This victory alone is not the change we seek. It is only the chance for us to make that change. And that cannot happen if we go back to the way things were.

It can't happen without you, without a new spirit of service, a new spirit of sacrifice.

So let us summon a new spirit of patriotism, of responsibility, where each of us resolves to pitch in and work harder and look after not only ourselves but each other." - President-Elect Barack Obama

When President Obama accepted victory in Grant Park, he called on all of us to join him in ushering in the change we all were seeking. Did we answer the call? Have we rolled up our sleeves and fought for real change?

I would argue that very few did. Most of us celebrated and waited for Obama to do the heavy lifting. The country was facing a devastating financial crisis while conducting two wars. We were celebrating the victory, but not looking at the overwhelming challenges our new leader was facing. We expected sweeping change, but for the most part we left the battlefield and expected Obama to bring us that change.
http://www.readersupportednews.org/opinion/75-75/2201-blaming-obama-is-easy-and-irresponsible



and it seems like everytime we are given a option of fighting for change, we become real particular and finicky and if it can't be done all our way, we walk away and join the opposite side at bashing our own.

We kind of suck a lot! Talk about missed opportunities!

[HughMoran]

28. very, very few did

(heed the call to service)

I think they thought is was service on a platter :(

[flamingdem]

23. If he'd just listen to me and eat some spoon size shredded wheat I'm sure he'd improve things!

[HughMoran]

29. lol

:rofl:

[Hawkowl]

27. Can't stand the heat.....

Get the fuck out of the kitchen. (Harry Truman paraphrased).

[FrenchieCat]

30. Why does the kitchen have to be so fucking hot?

How does that help us progress even an inch?

[HughMoran]

33. Kitchens are a lot cooler than they were back then too

Because the people have so many ways to be heard now, we also have the responsibility to be the government that we want.

That does require a bit of sacrifice though and perhaps going along on one issue to get another. This message is not ME generation approved.

[dionysus]

37. that's just sooooo clever you keep posting it everywhere...

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[vaberella]

36. You know for most he hasn't shown any leadership.

Makes you wonder what he's been doing the 18 months in office.

[tekisui]

40. He asked the American people to vote for him to deal with this SHIT!

So, we did. He wanted to take on those shit sandwiches. I don't see the point in acting like he is a victim of circumstance. He, and we, knew the score when he was elected. He needs to produce real results to keep the confidence of those who support him.

[HughMoran]

42. He also asked us to work with him

Instead of whining about the taste of shit all day long. :shrug:

[tekisui]

45. I've done my part.

I called my reps. I wrote the WH. I am not going to sit with my mouth shut when I see horrible decisions being made. That is what democracy is about.

It is not about blind loyalty.

[HughMoran]

47. Well, nobody has suggested blind loyalty, that's for sure.

Some have suggested that there's a difference between CONSTRUCTIVE criticism and DESTRUCTIVE criticism.

I assume your work for his 8 years in office is done now that you've written and called - you expected immediate results that aren't forthcoming, so take your ball and go home? That's hardly 'working with him'.

[tekisui]

49. You assume incorrectly.

I never asked for immediate results. But, I dis expect and still want to go in the right direction. The pace is much less important than the direction.

As I have said repeatedly. I work on issues. I stand for positions based on ideals. When the President or Congress is in line with my ideals, I work for them however I can. If they are antithetical to my ideals, I will do what I can to let them know.

It has nothing to do with my balls.

[depakid]

43. Gotta play the hand you're dealt...

What some see as shit sandwiches, others see as opportunities for bold, confrontational action that results in effective structural and philosophical change.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

53. It's not Obama saying "woe is me."

It's about his supporters - who are SUPPOSED TO BE US - putting everything into a little fucking context. Context =/= pity party, regardless for how much you want it to be so.

[woo me with science]

44. I'm gettng weary of the "Obama as Victim" posts. nt

[tekisui]

46. Me too.

I don't understand why posters feel so personally connected to the President that they feel the need to join in playing the victim.

He either has the political chops and will to do the job or he doesn't. Whining about it doesn't change a thing.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

52. The question isn't whether or not Obama "has the chops".

The question is whether or not there's EVER been a person alive who "has the chops" to deal with all of this. These problems are historical in their magnitude - I'd love to get a run down on historical figures that you think would be able to hack it, along with some detailed reasoning as to why. The only one who comes to mind - for me - is FDR, and frankly, if you compare their achievements and problems at this point in each of their presidencies, Obama would still come out ahead.

[woo me with science]

55. Then why all the whining?

Seriously, what is your point then? He IS President of the United States, so why all the whining on his behalf about shit sandwiches, as though he were a victim being force-fed something horrible he didn't expect or deserve? He signed up for this job, for pete's sake, and he is not a victim by a long shot. There have been multiple Presidents in the past who dealt with much more serious problems. Try Lincoln. Or Washington. Or FDR.

This new willingness to claim victimhood and moan about how HARD the job is and how MEAN the Presidents' critics are being is pretty juvenile and extremely unattractive. I'm sure a shit sandwich-eatng Cinderella is EXACTLY the image Obama wants for himself.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

57. Why all the whining on the other side?

That's why we have to point out all of these problems - because some here seem to think the guy isn't doing a damn thing.

[woo me with science]

58. No, you are the one whining that people should shut up.

I am just pointing out how absurd your argument of victimhood actually is. Part of the job description of President includes being the subject of political commentary from all voices, including those that don't agree with you.

Adult Presidents understand that. Adult participants in political discourse understand that and don't feel a need to play the VICTIM card when confronted with a differing opinion. They also understand the absurdity of trying to create an aura of VICTIMHOOD around the President of the United States.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

61. Being a citizen means being informed.

Adult citizens have a responsibility to understand the issues of the day. Adult citizens have a duty to understand the fundamentals of our how government operates, how laws get passed, and what power a president really has. Adult citizens have an obligation to push our leaders into proper action after learning what actions have been taken, what actions are reasonable, and what actions are already underway.

I don't see many adult citizens here.

[woo me with science]

70. No, not after.

Citizens have the right to express their opinions throughout the political process, before, during, and after actions have been taken. They have no responsibility to withhold their commentary until AFTER actions have been taken. To suggest that in the United States of America is beyond ludicrous. Should we have waited until AFTER BushCo. invaded Iraq to speak up?

Sometimes this place is beyond stunning.

Obviously you don't see informed citizens. When you start from the premise that criticism is MEAN and should be silenced, I hardly think you are expending energy to read all the substantive posts have HAVE been written about what Obama might do. They are not hard to find if you search out some of the longer, more contentious threads.

But that is not even the main point. You know, even if every single bit of criticism being leveled at Obama were absolutely ludicrous, uninformed, and vicious, he STILL would not be a victim. Criticism comes with the job--from ALL Americans, not just the ones you prefer. And it is a pathetic state of affairs when whining about criticism, claiming victimhood, and portraying the President of the United States as a shit sandwich-eating Cinderella becomes an ATTRACTIVE form of political rhetoric for his supporters.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

72. You're right -- this place IS stunning.

Perhaps you should re-read my post - it's very, very much apparent that you didn't. I did NOT say we should wait until after action - I said we should LEARN ABOUT THE ACTIONS that are planned and those that are underway before launching into a diatribe. I think you, in particular, perhaps need to learn reading comprehension before you go any further into political discourse.

[woo me with science]

74. "after learning what actions have been taken"

But keep trying.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

76. learning being the keyword, genius.

[Cha]

67. There are so many victims whining about what they

haven't gotten from the President..it really is pathetic.

[HughMoran]

48. So that's what you think this is about?

:crazy:

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

51. I'm getting weary for the need for these posts on DU.

If we didn't have some many ignorant DUers that actually realized the enormity of these problems, these posts wouldn't be necessary.

[woo me with science]

56. Why is there a "need" for them?

[HughMoran]

59. Same as you felt 'compelled' to post a snarky response that missed the point

:shrug:

[woo me with science]

60. Care to do a better job

of explaining the point?

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

62. Short of giving you a picture book, I'm not sure that's possible. (nt)

[woo me with science]

65. Yup, here we go again.

Shit sandwiches. Cinderella. Picture books.

This is what passes for adult political discourse today.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

69. Then grow a large capability for understanding complex ideas.

Or, at a minimum, just develop an understanding for how our government works and how today's problems compare historically. I'm not going to hold my breath, nor am I going to sit idly by while people mindlessly bash someone that's doing everything in his power to help because they can't be bothered to learn anything.

[woo me with science]

71. And what complex ideas those were!

1. Obama is a victim.

2. I am the informed one.

3. Everybody else is mindless and should shut up.


Gee, where have I heard that kind of stunning and devastating logic before? Hmm....



Have a nice day. :hi:

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

73. Well, frankly, it's YOUR logic.

It's not mine, but then again, I really wouldn't expect you to grasp that.

[woo me with science]

75. Um...okay.

I guess your name is on that post by mistake. Maybe you are just one of my multiple personalities posting.

:rofl:

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

78. You're not one of my personalities, thank god. (nt)

[HughMoran]

64. Simple

It's a butt-load of shit sandwiches he has on his plate - it might take more than 17 months to eat all of them. It's not about Obama, it's about using a bit of common sense. Where did you get this 'victim' notion anyway?

[woo me with science]

66. "a butt load of shit sandwiches."

Poor Obama, being force fed all these shit sandwiches, and those meanies just won't leave him alone.

This is the extent of your argument, yet he is not a victim?

Nope, definitely not.

Sigh.

If this is your argument, there is little point in engaging further. However, I will reiterate one morsel of shit for thought. I seriously doubt this is a line of defense Obama appreciates. Being painted a victim is never a positive thing for a sitting President. So no matter how much you may believe you are helping him with your shit sandwich defense, I would suggest you are doing just the opposite.

Have a nice day.

[HughMoran]

79. Glad to see you really had nothing to say but insults

See ya! :hi:

[woo me with science]

83. Insults? Please cite a single "insult" here I made about you.

I pointed out that your sole argument seems to be that "the meanies are giving Obama shit sandwiches."

That's a comment on your lack of argument, not a personal insult. You keep saying victimhood isn't your point, but you can't seem to articulate what your point is.

Your responding this way sort of underscores the problem, though. When you perceive any critical feedback as "insult," you will tend to take things personally and consider yourself a victim.

Thank you for illustrating that so clearly.

[HughMoran]

84. I never said you insulted me

You insulted yourself in your attempt to put words in my mouth.

Critical feedback my ass.

Victim my ass.

Maybe he's a victim of circumstance to some extent, but nobody was making him out to be a victim but you. Why? Because it sounds weak has a negative connotation when used to describe a President. And it appears to me that you are here to bring on the negative. Have fun with that.

[woo me with science]

87. LOL. Thank you for defending me

against myself.

[Enrique]

63. Obama has rich friends that will help him through the tough times

[Cha]

68. That the best you can come up with..I guess not.

[dionysus]

77. running low on material, huh?

:rofl:

[livetohike]

81. Bush vacationed away his Presidency and no one called him

on it. No one. Thanks for a timely reminder of how screwed up everything was. Where does one start??

[4_TN_TITANS]

82. Reminds me of an Onion headline back in 2008...

after the election. Something along the lines of "Black Man Saddled with Worst Job in the Country".

The Onion can be so prophetic sometimes.

[HughMoran]

86. Onion has been amazingly prophetic over the years

They had a couple that were knock your socks off accurate about Bushco.

[butterfly77]

85. K&R

[HughMoran]

88. Kick my shit

[SunsetDreams]

89. keep your shit to yourself ty

This OP on the other hand...bravo :)

[HughMoran]

90. There's a popular O/P today about shit

So, I thought I'd kick my shit up here as a comparison ;)

Oh, and thanks :hi: