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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 08:14 PM
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Poll question: Based on how you feel now, will you provide more or less Time and Money to Obama in 2012?
I know many things can change, like who he is running against and what happens between now and 2012, but based on how you feel TODAY......
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 08:16 PM
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1. I want the GOP to win because I trust them to run the country more than Obama
Edited on Sun Jun-13-10 08:18 PM by stray cat
I know they care about the working class, health care, social security and opportunity for all and I can't wait to see them tackle the budget, entitlements and reforming eduction and energy

- at least thats the option of not working to re-elect Obama
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 08:18 PM
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4. It is a va;id question, people can vote for Obama but not be excited enough to donate money!
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 08:19 PM
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5. absolutely - and its valid if dems are not engaged we deserve the GOP
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 08:19 PM
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7. 2008 was rather unique, more money than ever for Obama, might not happen again.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 10:16 PM
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33. The money started with t he guy from Hollywood who courted Obama
Edited on Sun Jun-13-10 10:19 PM by Bobbieo
because he was pissed at Clinton for not freeing Leonard Peltier at the end of Clinton's term.
How different would things be if Clinton had freed Peltier? But, then no one in their right mind would piss off the FBI!
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 08:23 PM
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12. If the elected Dems do not reciprocate our support, they will lose.
Whether you believe they deserve it or not.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 08:33 PM
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16. That's much be a given
Candidates who've gone out their way to insult key constituencies- or backstab their agenda aren't going to increase their small donations or volunteer base!

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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 06:55 AM
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49. Right!
And it's more than that. Before it was the threat of the republicans, John McCann, now it's the the tea party crowd. The threat of having Palin as president, not just VP. Our opposition is more insane than we new in 2008.

It is very narrow minded and egotistical to see this as only about Obama and how your going the "show him". How dare he not do exactly what you wanted him to do. He will be fine regardless, but if he loses WE WILL NOT BE FINE!!!!!

Anyone who sits on their hands in 2012 deserves everything they get. And what we get if they win will be horrific.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 08:16 PM
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2. No time and no money - although I'll vote for him over a Republican. nt
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 08:17 PM
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3. More
I'll be there to makeup for the people who take a seat in the next election.

Call me the hole plugger.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 08:26 PM
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14. Yup, someone has to do it.
Gore could have used more of us...
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 08:19 PM
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6. None.
I'll work for some local candidates instead.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 08:20 PM
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8. More.
I want eight years total of good judicial picks.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 08:21 PM
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9. we will vote for him, but not work for him or donate money.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 08:22 PM
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10. lol. Less.
I won't phone bank. I won't donate. I won't advocate. I won't knock on doors. I won't even get a bumper sticker.

I did all of the above and more in 2008.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 12:00 AM
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36. We know
It's rather obvious at this point.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 08:19 AM
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56. Hey, he'll still get my vote.
As far as I can tell at this point. He is better than a repuke, but not enough for me to bend over backwards for.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 08:22 PM
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11. I will support and vote for President Obama again
Edited on Sun Jun-13-10 08:24 PM by MadMaddie
I will NOT vote for a Republican...not in this lifetime or the next.

If Democratic leaning voters do not vote
"DO NOT" complain when this country continues it's deep slide into a religous fanatical state.
Do not complain when the rich become richer.
Do not complain when your roads and schools fall apart because there is no tax base.
Do not complain when you have a serious need for police or fire response and it takes 45 minutes to 1.5 hours to get response.
Do not complain when your libraries are forced to purge books that the religious right does not approve.
Do not complain when jobs continue to get exported
Do not complain when unions become a thing of the past
Do not complain when history books are scrubbed clean of facts that make people uncomfortable

So do what you must....go ahead and put Palin and/or similar ilk into the White house and when you reap what you sew...."Don't Complain"!
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 08:24 PM
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13. So Obama has been all you wanted, or just better than the GOP?
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 08:32 PM
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15. Obama got a bunch of shit sandwiches on his plate on January 20, 2009. He's


not done eating them yet. Give him a chance!
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 09:07 PM
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23. That excuse only goes so far.
For one thing, he should not have hired a cabinet almost entirely made up of the same people who served the shit.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 11:29 PM
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72. We know..
he can't have his four years to try to fix things like other Presidents' and he isn't doing things fast enough when he has more on his plate than previous presidents' and everything should be done by now...

He needs to be told what to do on every issue and how to do it because every other President had all of the experience they needed when they entered the white house and they already knew what would happen in the future so they already knew how to handle every issue.

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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 08:45 PM
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21. Valid question. Yes, he has been a disappointment
Edited on Sun Jun-13-10 08:49 PM by MadMaddie
on some issues that I care about.

I think he has been too soft on the Republicans and at this point he should be kicking the shit out of them.

DADT should have been overturned by now. However; federal employees can now have their domestic partners covered.

The wars - at this point the question should be how do we extract our troops not if we can win the wars. This was the previous presidents fuck-up and the window for the wars to be successful is gone.

I took his word when he said he would disappoint us, my expectations have always been reality based. He is one man with a congress that has too many blue dog Democratic members. Every time the potential is there to move forward the blue dogs back stab him and impact the outcome of critical issues.

If we lose 2012 we risk the Supreme Court even further to the right than it already is.

One of the Democratic problems is and has always been we do not have enough Rachal Maddows in the media to tell the truth. We have never really controlled the message and have been unable to influence what is actually being put out over the airwaves.

I have no issue criticizing him when he fucks up. For example whoever is out there attacking the Unions is a fool. I support Unions I see them as the only force left to prevent this country from returning to 1920's Robber Barron era.

I think Public Financing is the only way that we can fix the broken election system.

I would also say I am not satisfied with the state of unemployment. We should be immulating the Depression era "New Deal". We should have massive job programs across the country and yet we see a little here and a little there. We have a failing infrastructure that could take re-trained workers and put them to work rebuildinig bridges, highways, electrical grids etc.

So am I totally satisfied? No! Am I a realist? Yes, we would be living in the worst economic depression in the world if McCain would have taken office. If McCain would have died from the stress we would be left with Palin and I could bet we would be in WWIII with someone.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 09:34 PM
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30. Great response! I agree with most of it.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 12:26 AM
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38. Thanks my friend!!
:hi:
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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:48 PM
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68. More...
time and money. It's going to be harder, and he'll need it. So far, I'm there.

And to save time I'm going to piggy back on this excellent post by MadMaddie. I agree with what was said, especially the last paragraph.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 05:05 AM
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44. Can you name one politician that has been...
"all you wanted"? For that matter, can you name one person in your life that has been "all you wanted"?

We take these things on a baseline that things will be better if we make a good choice, no where in life will we ever get "all you wanted" whether that be a friend, a lover, a family member and especially a politician.

In life's experience, we balance the good/bad, and we make a decision.There is no reason on the face of the earth for the GOP to gain seats, they have nothing, under PO, the country is moving forward on several fronts. There is no possible way of making all citizens happy, even supporters have different priorities., and priorities change, sometimes dramatically.

Then there is a contentious congress...most of the things that have yet to happen have to come through them, and D's need to shut down the GOP. The problem is not so much PO, but a congress that is allowed to fold under pressure from a minority that has no ideas, no fixes, nothing except complaints and whining...and they get away with being a lot, even though they have minimal power.



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tranche Donating Member (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 11:18 AM
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59. So a President needs to be "all you wanted"?
Ooo... how cute. Widdle Kansas wants a new needo Pwesident undoo the Cwistmas twee...
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 12:04 PM
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63. Why does it have to be an all-or-nothing scenario?
Jesus, I'm really glad the voting public wasn't made up of people like you in 1936, or we'd have gotten President Alf Landon and lost the entire New Deal.
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 08:06 PM
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69. All I wanted and then some.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 08:37 PM
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17. More
Cuz 2012 will be tougher.

You want Mr. and Mrs. Teabag in the White House, do less.
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 08:39 PM
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18. You have got to be kidding
Who in the Hell want's to return to Republicans in charge again.
Everyone here had better spend " more" time donating time to the Democratic Party.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 08:42 PM
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19. Face it, 2008 was extremely unique! More money than ever for a candidate. n/t
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 08:44 PM
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20. They think there's no difference
:dunce:
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 08:56 PM
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22. Other:
I can't provide less time and money than I already did, since I never supported him, but I'll sure as hell provide MORE time, if not money, to any actual left-of-center candidates on my ballot.

I can't, at this point, provide money to anyone. 3 pay cuts in the last 15 months.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 09:09 PM
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24. There's an assumption in your poll that everyone here donated time and money to Obama in 2008.
:shrug:
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 09:33 PM
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29. And the answers cover those who did not!!!
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:30 AM
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42. Trust me, no one has that assumption when it comes to some around here.
:shrug:
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 09:14 PM
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25. More.
This has become the old 'who needs enemies when you have friends like this' crap. A stiletto to the jugular, but hey, it's just cuz you're not progressive enough.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 09:19 PM
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26. Don't ask and I won't tell.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 09:28 PM
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27. I actually never donated to a political candidate or party before, just DU.
But then I don't work (I stay home with my young kids and am going back to college).
But I always vote. I voted for my town budget, of course I am voting for Obama in 2012. I mean, what is the alternative?

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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 05:55 AM
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45. Romney? There is no alternative.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 09:30 PM
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28. I will vote for him. He remains a candidate I will donate money and time to.
However, I will not donate money to the DNC.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 09:47 PM
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31. Obama has execeeded some of my expectations based off his resources.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 09:53 PM
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32. If I am still around I will donate more.
I knew Bush/Cheney had done damage but I had no grasp of the scope. The solutions for the problems we face today are way beyond the capacity of any one man and that includes the president of the United States. I see a strain in Obama's face today that concerns me. I do think he has the right temperament, personal values, political skills and long term goals but I wonder if he will be able to survive the media as it exists today. They have swung far right, have much power in persuading public opinion, are ruthless and they don't give a fuck about the country. I am not about to give up but the situation today is very unsettling.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 10:32 PM
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34. I will donate far less than I did in 2008.
He is a major disappointment.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 11:38 PM
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35. Our limited time and resources are needed for important local races
These are tough economic times.
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 12:06 AM
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37. He has his precious corporations, he doesn't need me
Donated both in '08. Not worth it this time around.

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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 01:28 AM
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39. Not sure - either less or the same depending on who is running against him on the Democratic side.
Edited on Mon Jun-14-10 01:31 AM by old mark
Based on TODAY, I would do less.

I think the GOP candidate will be Romney, not Palin, and Romney will gain some of Obama's "center", but will lose anyway.

Obama will win in '12 and continue to spit on the left.
The DLC will learn nothing.

mark
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 01:49 AM
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40. Donating and working for policies that are repugnant to me is absurd
If he's carrying water for the corporations, advancing the pre-shrub Republican agenda, and running interference for global criminal while selling working folks down the river in leaky boats with no paddles then I'm voting for a Democrat.

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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:20 AM
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41. No time, no money
he'll be lucky to get a vote. The vote will be dependant on if he has turned into a REAL Democrat instead of a corporate shill by 2012.
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 04:54 AM
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43. Definitely More.
I'd rather complain and work to change outcomes of issues that concern me with Dems in charge, and I'm expecting Justice Ginsburg may not be around much longer and want a democratically-appointed replacement.
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 06:26 AM
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46. This is who is voting "less"
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 06:36 AM
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47. Less. Will also withhold voting in the general election for President.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 06:45 AM
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48. More.
Obama has proven himself to be the right president at the right time. And, given the alternative, the choice must be made clear for all.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:15 AM
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50. You like polls.
Who knows now, who cares? Miles to go...
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pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:20 AM
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51. If I have any time
or money for politics it will be donated at the local level.
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:22 AM
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52. Guessing you find the results of your poll 'disappointing'.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:25 AM
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53. The same
Didn't donate or give any time in 2008. Will do the same in 2012. He may get my vote again. Too early to tell.
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:50 AM
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54. Not sure yet.
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 08:08 AM
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55. I said 'less' in the poll.
If Obama keeps doing what he's doing now, it will be 'nothing' to Obama.
All my bitching aside, I will probably end up holding my nose and voting Obama again. It doesn't make me happy, though.

It looks like I will not see a progressive in the White House in my lifetime.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 09:46 AM
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57. More, more, more...
Have to balance out the whiners out in the wide world who won't give.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 09:48 AM
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58. None. Zilch. Nada. Not a penny. Not a single phone call. n/t
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jeanpalmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 08:13 PM
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70. +1
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 11:22 AM
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60. He'll get my vote, but that's it.
While I personally adore the guy, his quest for bipartisanship has pretty much tanked my level of support.
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mochajava666 Donating Member (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 11:59 AM
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61. No money, no time, no effort. He simply doesn't deserve it.
I'll most likely vote for him, but as a part of the base that he has gone out of his way to shit upon, he will have to act more progressive before I even do that. I may just vote locally, since Obama doesn't seem to care strongly about anything but corporations. Since he has been their pawn, he should get plenty of contributions (bribe money) from them.

He has been very obvious about what he thinks of the liberal Dems, yet many liberals can't objectively see that they are being played for fools. The religious right was played by Reagan and GHW Bush. W was the first one to actually believe what the religious right was saying, which created the civil war raging between the libertarians, corporatists, and the religious right in the Republican party. Obama is no believer in progressive causes, so he will give the progressive base the same lip service that Reagan and GHW Bush gave the religious right.

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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 12:03 PM
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62. About the same, maybe more depending on who his opponent is.
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 02:30 PM
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64. Well I got an invitation to the 2009 inauguration. I got a certificate for helping to pass
the health care legislation. For some unknown reason I got a free Obama tee shirt in the mail. I'll have to do a lot more in 2012 to get some more goodies I guess.
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kjackson227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 02:37 PM
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65. More :)
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 02:39 PM
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66. As always, I will give as much as I can of my time, energy, and money. nt
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 07:35 PM
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67. Alot more. I was out of the country during the 2008 campaign
and could only donate. I'll do alot more when I come back home.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-14-10 08:54 PM
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71. Not sure I could give any more
Last time I gave more than most people here because I could afford it - we'll have to see how things go - I'll give as much as I can afford.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 09:30 PM
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73. After hearing tonight's speech, I wont give him a single penny
Very disappointed at his complete surrender to BP and Wall Street.
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