Clyburn Says Greene Was a "Plant," calls for investigation

[Ian David]

Clyburn Says Greene Was a "Plant"
House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-SC) called for an investigation into the circumstances that led to Alvin Greene (D) to win the Democratic U.S. Senate primary in South Carolina, The Hill reports.

Said Clyburn: "There were some real shenanigans going on in the South Carolina primary. I don't know if he was a Republican plant; he was someone's plant."

Meanwhile, The Root has an interview with Greene noting that he "paid $10,400 to register as a candidate and then bought not even a single campaign sign" but "stunned the pundits with his victory, and in last 20 hours, he's become a media research project."

More:
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/06/10/clyburn_says_greene_was_a_plant.html

See Also:

This is Real Fishy (Alvin Greene)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x332268

Meet Alvin Greene, South Carolina’s Democratic Candidate For Senate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x473969

[rainy]

1. I was thinking that and posted something about in another thread.

[Turbineguy]

2. Never underestimate

the cunning of republicans to subvert elections and democracy.

[DJ13]

3. ..... or of corporatist Dems in Arkansas to subvert elections

[emulatorloo]

6. "corporatist" - I missed that word when I went to noun school. Am I an "educatist"?

Because I am certainly pro-education.

If I am pro-labor, am I a "laboratist?"

I don't get the impulse to create these crazy gooblydegook sounding words. Don't blame me too much, I was an English major.

Anyway it sounds like there was lots of outside interference in Arkansas, not just one side. But that is another there

[dotymed]

7. The wonderful thing

about the English language is its ability to adapt and create new words. Check the etymology of many words that didn't exist until...they did. Many from NASA, computer terminology, etc...

[emulatorloo]

9. True. The other great thing about English is its drive to simplicity.

Sure, you need a new word for "Hard Drive" or "Flash Storage". Science is always going to have a need for new terminology to describe things we never had before.

We probably don't need a new word for "Pro-Corporation" because we have that one, and the nice simple "Pro" prefix.

However, I've spent some time in Academia, so I know there is a drive to create jargon. In my day there was a huge impulse to turn every verb into a noun by adding "ification" to it.

[Cha]

20. There's always..

corphead.

[depakid]

21. "Normalcy" wasn't a word until it was used in Warren Harding's campaign slogan

[marshall]

26. It's in the OED

Under the entry for "corporatism" as the adjective form. The first use of that form of the word was in 1938.

[nxylas]

27. By Mussolini?

I know he used it as an alternative word for Fascism, though I don't know whether he coined the term.

[marshall]

28. It's cited from a source called Tablet

Used in reference to Barre.

[Cha]

4. NEVER..if you do..you're

a bloody fool.

[emulatorloo]

5. VERY VERY INTERESTING. Kick and Rec n/t

[flamingdem]

8. The picked a "real winner" with him! Nice charges against him! nt

[CakeGrrl]

10. Makes it easy for a Repub or Teabagger to look like a reasonable choice

It's completely plausible that he was planted for just this reason.

Repubs sure have those cheating and lying things down pat.

[flamingdem]

11. I had not thought of that one, ouch nt

[bigdarryl]

12. Well if he was a plant it seems the rethugs would benefit from this

wonder if DeMint knows anything

[Ian David]

14. Why would DeMint start knowing things NOW? He's never known anything before.

He's not a thing-knower or an it-getter.

[Ganja Ninja]

13. Doesn't the Democratic Party check out people that file to run for office ...

under their banner?

[totodeinhere]

15. I don't think anything can be done about it.

Is it illegal for a Republican to give Greene the money he needed for the filing fee? I don't think so. Plus Demint was going to win anyway no matter who the Dem nominee is. And besides, the responsibility ultimately lies with the voter to make an intelligent choice. Did the Republican's hold a gun to the heads of SC Dem voters and force them to vote for Greene? No, they voted for Greene of their own free will and the fault lies with the voters for getting us in this mess.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

16. There is something wrong with it because theyve done this before and been fined for it

[totodeinhere]

18. Can you provide a link for that please? Thanks. n/t

[SemiCharmedQuark]

22. Sure:

Clyburn said he did not know whether to suspect Republican involvement in the three races, but he added that Greene's candidacy reminded him of the case of GOP operative Rod Shealy.

In 1990, Shealy recruited an unemployed black fisherman facing felony charges, Benjamin Hunt Jr., to run for Congress in the Republican primary in order to boost white turnout in a different race on the ballot. Because South Carolina has open primaries, Republicans can vote for Democratic candidates and vice versa.
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Shealy was ultimately convicted of violating campaign finance laws after it was revealed that he had paid Hunt's campaign filing fee.

"When I learned that this gentleman, Mr. Greene, was accused of a felony, I just felt this was 1990 all over again," Clyburn said.

Greene's $10,400 campaign filing fee was written on a blank check with "Alvin M. Greene for Senate" handwritten across the top.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/10/AR2010061004943.html

[totodeinhere]

29. Very interesting. Thanks. n/t

[rufus dog]

23. SC has open primary n/t

[mike6640]

24. They didn't hold a gun to anyone's head

They do, however, have open primaries. Republicans can vote for Democratic candidates...

[Shrek]

17. Doesn't seem likely

From what I've read, other than filing as a candidate, Greene did nothing to indicate that he wanted to win the primary. No campaigning, no fund-raising, no town halls, nothing.

If he was a plant then I would expect some sort of an effort to actually win -- surely they wouldn't have expected that just being on the ballot was sufficient?

[besdayz]

19. a

is this guy even competent to run for office. from his interview he's seems short a few marbles. i don't want to have a literacy test but c'mon......


just an embarassment of corruption by the sc repukes. the worst in the country...

[mod mom]

25. Listen to him end the conversation when asked about the $10,000 filing fee:

~4:47 of this interview video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUFN7ZkjgkA

[Ian David]

30. Mystery in S.C.'s Democratic primary deepens

Mystery in S.C.'s Democratic primary deepens
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4423547&mesg_id=4423547