Moveon.org is doing their part to get Obama out of office

[LeftyAndProud60]

That new BP ad basically blames Obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EegQJBt47hU

[brooklynite]

1. Could you explain the ad for everyone who hasn't seen it?

[niceypoo]

25. The ad blames the Bushco MMS

...and asks Obama to fix it. Not sure where the hysterics come from.

[Captain Hilts]

2. They endorsed Obama in the primaries. nt

[avaistheone1]

18. More than that. Move.On.org conducted a tremendous nationwide get out the vote

drive for Obama.

[Cha]

3. I'd need to see it.

[LeftyAndProud60]

4. Vid posted. It has digs at Bush too. But still. nt

[polichick]

5. Not at all - the new ad shines a light on the cozy relationship between...

MMS, Salazar and BP.

It's the truth - and Obama's job is to put someone in charge who wouldn't hire a BP exec. "Cleaning house" is just rhetoric if he leaves Salazar in place.

[flpoljunkie]

8. Who is running the country? We all pretty much know the answer to that.

'Frankly, they own the place.' It's not just big banks, Senator Durbin.

[polichick]

14. Yep, ever since Reagan big business has run the country more and more...

Time will tell whether this president puts an end to it or not - so far we see policies that tweak things without changing the actual structure of things. Leaving Salazar in place at Interior shows that he's not really interested in cleaning house - yet. This ad will help.

[AndyA]

6. Are you talking about the ad named "The Ban?"

If you are, I don't get the connection that it's blaming President Obama for anything, other than a failure to put a stop to new oil drilling. I read that a permit was just issued for more Gulf drilling, in shallower waters.

It's just common sense to stop and take a look at what's been happening before continuing to proceed down a path that could bring about more catastrophes.

It would be silly for Moveon.org to want to get Obama out of office, as the options would be far worse.

[tledford]

9. I'd go a step farther.

"It's just common sense to stop and take a look at what's been happening before continuing to proceed down a path that could bring about more catastrophes."

It is INSANITY at this point to do anything other than stop any new drilling and evaluate all this crap. We kill the planet, we kill ourselves.

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[sandnsea]

10. Not to mention an irresponsible hit piece

http://www.doi.gov/archive/bio/baca_bio.html

She served in the Clinton Administration and then went to work in the social and environmental end of BP.

"From 1995 to 2001, Baca served as the Assistant Secretary for Land and Minerals Management at the Department of the Interior, where she was the principal policy advisor to the Secretary of the Interior for environmentally responsible stewardship of public lands and resources. She was responsible for the development of national policy and management direction of the Bureau of Land Management, Minerals Management Service and Office of Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforcement."

[Cha]

12. Thanks sandsea..that was my point in post # 11

Sylvia Baca worked for BP but did that make her incompetent in her current job?

Now I feel like contacting Moveon.. I hate it when there's just a speck of info that's provided to make someone look bad.

[Enrique]

17. it's not about competence

it's about incentives. She can benefit financially by doing a shitty job for us.

[avaistheone1]

19. True.

How often do we have to see this relationship, in order to give up our denial about it?

What other catastrophe has to happen before we question these relationships?

[Cha]

20. How? You can't just make an accusation and not back it up,

[Enrique]

23. i'm not making an accusation

government officials are subject to ethics rules. That doesn't mean that anyone is accusing them of anything. There's a reason for the ethics rules.

[Cha]

26. Sylvia Baca hasn't done anything wrong. Big Mike

doesn't know if she's doing a good job now just trying to smear her bc she had a job a BP. I expected better from moveon.

[Enrique]

27. Obama himself has talked about the revolving door

is he smearing all lobbyists by implementing ethics rules? Of course not.

[Cha]

28. I stand by my statement.

[polichick]

15. Doesn't matter - she's worked as a BP exec since then. Not to be trusted. nt

[Cha]

11. No, I don't think they're trying to bring him

down..they just want everyone to be aware of Mineral Mangaments' history. Sylvia Baca worked for BP but does that make her incompetent in her current job? I don't know.

This is the heart of the matter that I found while researching..

.."And Carter Roberts, president of the World Wildlife Fund, said the reforms did not substitute for a broader change to the nation's energy policy.

"What is still missing is a solution to the underlying cause of the BP disaster -- our addiction to dirty, dangerous oil," Roberts said in a statement. "There has never been more urgent to break oil's stranglehold on our economy and our environment. The catastrophe in the gulf should provide all the impetus needed for the President and Congress to finally pass a comprehensive climate and clean energy bill this year.""

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/27/AR2010052703302.html

[karynnj]

13. Maybe they should look at her resumee

Here is one what she has on the Interior website. http://www.doi.gov/archive/bio/baca_bio.html (Here's another one - http://www.publicland.org/08_current_past_news/2009/090618_baca_named.html ) I don't know if she has done a good job or not, but neither does Big Mike.

In any large company, you will have some excellent people - as well as some who are not good. I think that Elizabeth Birnbaum was the head of MMS until she resigned very recently.

Personally, I find the video and "big Mike" obnoxious.

[Cha]

16. He'd be way less obnoxious if

it wasn't a "hit piece" on Sylvia Baca. I'm contacting moveon with this info..thanks, karyn.

[avaistheone1]

21. I think the ad is right on target.

Everyone with at least a half a brain knows that the problem started long before Obama came to office.

However, Obama does own some of this oil spill issue by essentially keeping the same people and policies going at the agency as Bush/Cheney did. Moreover, shame on Obama as this agency had notorious problems. He should have cleaned house right away.

Obama has not been as responsive as he should have been after the oil spill as well. He couldn't find his footing.

It pretty simple. Obama's hands are not clean on this.

btw When is President Obama going to get rid of Bush's appointees at the Justice Department? Obama seems to following the same path in that department as Bush did.

[Tarheel_Dem]

22. Glad I unsubscribed months & months ago. (nt)

[niceypoo]

24. The ad blames Bush....and asks Obama to fix it

It in no way blames Obama.

Over the top drama queen.

[activa8tr]

29. Yes to that, and isn't that woman gone now ? n/t

[AtomicKitten]

30. It's a shot over the bow to fix this horseshit tout suite. nt

[ProSense]

31. The thread title is inaccurate and ridiculous. n/t

[avaistheone1]

32. I believe it is as well.

[KansasVoter]

33. OK, I'll throw them under the bus! LOL, you are dumb.