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BluegrassDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 01:18 AM
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I'm lovin' Justice Sonia Sotomayor!
Shame on your DU'ers who were opposed to her! I remember when her name was mentioned as a possible nominee, and some of the posters on this forum were hateful and I remember one even calling her a GOP stooge, just cause H.W. Bush appointed her. Obama knows what he's doing! She has been a reliable liberal vote on the court, but more importantly, she really lays into the right wingers on the Court! I've been reading her opinions on some decisions, and she doesn't bit her tongue. While everyone is concerned about whether Kagan will be like Stevens, we already have a liberal lion already seated by the name of Sotomayor!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 01:20 AM
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1. KnR...:o)
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 03:38 AM
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2. Can you blame people for being concerned?
The Supreme Court is already too far to the right. We are inundated with articles, etc claiming that she will move the court farther to the right. Ms. Kagan MAY turn out to be a friend, but people have every right to be concerned when it comes to the future of the country.

(That said, like you, I do not agree with uncivil discourse. If you have something to say at least make the effort to be respectful of others opinions.)
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 03:38 PM
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18. Yes, we can blame them. It's the same incorrect garbage day in and day out from the same people
Knee-jerk, assuming the worst and proclaiming Obama all sorts of terrible things.

Yes, they are wrong and yes we can blame them.
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suzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 03:59 PM
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19. +1
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 08:20 PM
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28. Blame them if you'd like...
People are, by and large, worried about their future. Ms. Kagan, as with nearly every nominee, regardless of who they are, represents the unknown. And people worry, right or wrong. There is a large amount of information to sift through. Some good. Some not. It's very difficult to tell fact from fiction.
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WeekendWarrior Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 01:58 AM
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35. +10 The sturm and drang around here is ridiculous. nt
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ProgressOnTheMove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 03:45 AM
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3. +1
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 04:40 AM
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4. I don't require her to be like Stevens, or like any other Justice.
I only require her, and the Court, to resist creeping corporatism.
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 04:52 AM
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5. The Wise Latina Woman! hoowah!
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 04:55 AM
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6. The Miranda case was helpful
I had two fears about Sotomayor. One was that she was very pro prosecution and the second is the utter lack of any record on gay rights. The second fear will have to wait for a gay rights case.
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 05:36 AM
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7. I too am hoping
the critics enjoy their crow sandwich.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:04 AM
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8. I was never opposed to Sotomayor.
I had expressed that I wished Obama picked someone more progressive.

So far I think Obama made a good selection when he chose her.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 08:10 PM
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26. I fell in love the day she asked about corporate personhood.
What we always have to remember is that the Republicans thought they were getting a conservative with Souter.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:48 AM
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9. +1. Another example of knee-jerk reactions of the far left.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 07:41 PM
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23. Funny how you guys in the center-right spend so much time obsessing over the "far left"
Edited on Wed Jun-02-10 07:42 PM by liberation
And entity almost non existent in this country.

I take dealing with the far right and their all too real hubris hits too close to home, so you much rather obsess over imaginary bogey men and strawmen.


What I can still not figure is the logic of some of you, esp. the DLC approach of spitting in the face of liberals, throw them under the bus, and then act shocked... shocked I tell you... when those damn lefties do not go out of their way to support your own brand of moderate conservatism.

Oh, well...
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 08:18 PM
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27. +100
:applause:
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theaocp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 09:05 PM
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32. +1
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sheldon Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:43 PM
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34. So true...
It makes me sick to hear people whine about the left.... What has the left done lately?
The right wingers have moved the scale so far, that center = far left now.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 09:21 AM
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37. +1
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:55 AM
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10. "gop stooge"! That sounds
typical of those who don't know what they're talkng about but have plenty of cheap shots to throw out.
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 10:59 AM
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11. Shame on you for coming on a public message board and "shaming" those who disagree with you. nt
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 03:25 PM
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17. They SHOULD be ashamed if they were wrong and railed at her n/t
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 11:13 AM
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12. There are plenty of people around here who don't get it
And some just like to complain about everything, rather there is a really a problem or not.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 02:57 PM
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13. You never know what you'll get in a SC Justice--look at some of the choices republican presidents
made:

Ike made Earl Warren CJ and put William Brennan on the court--two very strong liberals even though they had been republicans.

Nixon put Harry Blackmun on the court--and he was the author of Roe v Wade.

Ford put John Paul Stevens on the court

Bush I put David Souter.

On the other hand, JFK nominated his college friend Byron White to the court and he turned out to be a disappointment to liberals.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 02:57 PM
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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 03:17 PM
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15. You assume they have any shame
they've moved on to their latest thing to be outraged about
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 03:24 PM
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16. Loved her from the very beginning
I always knew she was going to be awesome!
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suzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 04:00 PM
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20. +1,000
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 06:38 PM
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21. Me too
She was a great choice. :loveya: Justice Sotomayor!
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 06:57 PM
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22. I'm very happy knowing she sits on the Supreme Court.
She's fantastic.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 07:45 PM
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DesertDiamond Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 07:46 PM
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25. Just because people have concerns why do you have to call them "hateful"?
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 08:28 PM
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29. Please take "shame on YOUR DU'ers" to your local proctologist
so that he or she can help you insert it where it belongs. We had every right and reason to be concerned and the jury's not out yet (no pun intended).
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 08:32 PM
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30. Sonia, Sonia, my love... Like light from above.
I love to having a Latina helping shape our society. If only we could get a black person on the SC.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 08:57 PM
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31. So far she's proven to be a very intelligent justice although
I disagree with her view on the Miranda rights case. I'm with Kennedy on that one.
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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 09:31 PM
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33. I don't know about "opposing" her.
Edited on Wed Jun-02-10 09:37 PM by Q3JR4
Like a lot of people here I was leery about the prospect but not because it was Obama who nominated her. My reasoning went beyond that.

We like to assume that someone nominated to serve on the supreme court will inevitably heel to the ideology of the party of the person who nominated them, but that doesn't have to be the case.

Presidents like to pick justices with no known "liberal" or "conservative" record precisely because those kinds of people have the highest probability of getting confirmed. Furthermore most of the nominated justices are deliberately vague during their confirmation hearings, and that makes me wonder how forthcoming those justices are when they are inevitably interviewed by the president who ultimately nominates them to serve.

The bottom line is that you can't really know what someone is going to do if you have few writings to base your decision on, not to mention the fact that both parties have been disappointed by justices in the past. To me that means that the most reasonable stance for us to take regardless of who nominated the justice in question is one of caution until they've penned a couple of opinions for either the majority or the minority side.

I guess my only questions would be: why must we be cheerleaders for a justice if we don't know how they're ultimately going to rule? Secondly, why does that caution make us worthy of your scorn?

Q3JR4.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 02:21 AM
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36. Persecution complex noted
Pretty overblown rhetoric about opposition because kookily liberals want solidly liberal Justices. She's been good but that doesn't mean she was the optimal choice ideologically. She's made no votes that a reasonable Justice shouldn't be expected to make but that doesn't make her particularly liberal except in contrast to five of the most hardcore cons to serve on the high court.

I know I wasn't opposed to her at all and virtually no one was that I can recall except silly pukes worrying about empathy and "wise Latinas". Still, I'd would prefer someone more leftwing because the court needs it. All cases aren't 5-4, there are plenty of cases that split 7-2 and 6-3 that need some progress too. There are lots of civil liberties and fiscal decisions that might not be highlighted as main events, that even little wobbles to the right change and/or weaken further.

You have every right to love Sotomayor but the nose rubbing seems like a pretty drastic reach considering how most folk received and accepted her and I can't help thinking crowning her the liberal lion at this early stage is too cocky and maybe a bit zealous as well.

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