Was there this much controversy when Obama visited the Queen of England?

[msallied]

As far as I know, there is a LOT of decorum and ceremony involved in how you must behave in the Queen's presence. Even some that might seem, well, subservient. The Emperor of Japan is analogous in many ways to the monarchy in England. So why are people freaking out over a bow over a ceremonial figurehead? If it were the prime minister, then we'd have a debate here.

[Ozymanithrax]

1. Republicans expect Obama to vist a queen.

More from the party of No.

[Captain Hilts]

2. We didn't defeat Britain in a war and permit her family to continue their reign. nt

[FrenchieCat]

8. Yep. We didn't round up British Citizens and up them in a concentration camp.....

and you know that was like really the American thing to do.

[msallied]

10. Yeah, the best diplomatic policy would have been to drop a couple of nukes on them.

[Captain Hilts]

18. Our relationship with the countries is not analogous. It's that simple. I think he did the right

thing, by the way, and the criticism he's getting is stupid.

[d_r]

15. yeah we did

I mean, it wasn't that kind of defeat I guess, but we defeated them once and sort of took them to a draw a second time.

[Posteritatis]

26. Yes, let's continue to treat Japan like a destroyed enemy; that's the progressive thing to do! (nt)

[11 Bravo]

3. Liz is a round eye. Repugs don't mind showing respect to Caucasians.

[Connie_Corleone]

4. It was Ipod-Gate regarding the Queen.

It doesn't matter. Rightwingers just hate Obama and they'll criticize him no matter what he does.

[msallied]

6. Not just rightwingers. Plenty of DU dittoheads parroting their lines for them.

[Rhiannon12866]

5. Every single action gets analyzed and picked apart, these days.

When Obama visited the Queen, there was a huge discussion about the First Lady touching her... :shrug:

[alsame]

7. Don't you remember the hysteria about Michelle

putting her arm around the Queen? People were acting like it was such a breach of protocol that England would shortly be coming here to take their colonies back.

[msallied]

9. Ah, so THAT'S what this is about!

They're worried that if we act like we're kotowing to Japan, they'll come invade Pearl Harbor again! lol

[alsame]

22. Yes, and

Dec 7 is only a few weeks away :scared:

:rofl:

[Captain Hilts]

11. Liz obviously didn't mind one bit. nt

[Saphire]

30. And the I-pod.....don't forget the I-pod.

[Cha]

12. I don't watch corporate news so

I wouldn't know there was controversy if I didn't see it on DU.

But, I do know this..wherever and whatever PO does there's going to be fabricated crap coming from all sides.

[ClarkUSA]

13. There was over Michelle's etiquette, then it turned out QEII loved Michelle so the outrage fizzled.

It's always the same bunch of morons here and elsewhere who jump on any perceived opening to express their bitterness and
hatred towards the Obamas.

Too bad for the naysayers that everybody in the global community agrees with those of us who admire the Presidential couple's
panache. ;)

[timeforpeace]

14. It's only a big deal cuz heads of state don't bow to the guy. Actually no heads of state ever bow

at least until now.

[Captain Hilts]

19. Don't confuse them with the facts. nt

[msallied]

29. So this is a bad thing? Your jingoism sucks ass.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

32. Your fixation on this reminds of you criticizing people for being fixated on Palin. nt

[Bitwit1234]

16. The only thing wrong with republicans is

when they see Obama visit a head of state they are burning with envy that it is not a republican. They then start to nit pick to try to get people to complain about something.

Instead of posting articles about how child est republicans are acting, the press makes their rants look real.

[Clio the Leo]

17. only on the weekend when we had nothing else to talk about :) nt

[sandnsea]

21. A lot has happened in Asia to talk about

Of course, you wouldn't know it with our brilliant media. We should be talking about progress with Russia and nukes and Iran; Indonesia's praise of Obama's "fresh appraoch", Obama's talks with Myanmar (Burma), trade agreements, Hawaii hosting 2011 APEC, a bunch of stuff.

The fact that anybody in the media is talking about a bow is just an insult to every thinking person in the world really. It is stomach churning. And really, there isn't any political group that is immune to the hyteria of the day.

[sandnsea]

20. Michelle didn't treat the white queen with enough respect

The President treats the brown arab and japanese with too much respect.

They're just a pack of racists that's all there is to it.

[Hamlette]

23. yes, don't you remember when Michelle put her hand on the Queen?

they went nuts because you-don't-touch-the-queen.

The right will get outraged about anything.

And honestly, from where I am, I'm not hearing anything about the bow. It's all on cable and the Internet tubes.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

24. The media were busy going on about Michelle's cardigan!

remember

[Posteritatis]

25. There were vast howls of rage here about his visiting Elizabeth, yes. (nt)

[itsrobert]

27. Fuck Monarchies

I could care less about the tradition of honoring someone because they were born into it.

[msallied]

28. Well I guess that's something you have the luxury of not worrying about.

Seeing as how you aren't the POTUS who actually has to get shit done.

[Posteritatis]

31. It's interesting how some things bring out Bushlike mentalities here, isn't it?

"Oh, fuck all the other countries! My way is the one true way!" gets really popular whenever the US has to do anything diplomatic with those evil despotisms known as constitutional monarchies.

[DU GrovelBot]

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