LBJ & Robert McNamara conversation 3/2/1964

[grasswire]

Johnson: ... we can say this is the Vietnamese war and they've got 200,000 men, and they're untrained, and we've got to bring their morale up, and they have nothing really to fight for because of the type of government they've had. We can put in socially conscious people and try to get 'em to improve their, their own government and then what the people get out of their own government and we can train them how to fight <...> And that, after considering all of these, it seems that the latter offers the best alternative for America to follow.

from Bill Moyers' site on LBJ and the war. http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/11202009/profile.html

[izquierdista]

1. He's right, Obama is not LBJ

Johnson knew how to get stuff passed in Congress.

[IndianaGreen]

2. Obama would not have passed Medicare

He would have came up with some pro-industry bullshit health care.

[Vidar]

4. Sounds about right.

[grasswire]

3. I hope you're not missing the message of this conversation.

The parallel between Obama's speech and Johnson's conversation?