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bigjohn16 (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:00 PM Original message |
What is your definition of success in Afghanistan? |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
1. Leaving. |
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bigjohn16 (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. But if we don't? |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Then we are unsuccessful. |
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bigjohn16 (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. I think it's safe to say that the President will commit more troops tonight. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. There will be more troops. More US deaths... |
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bigjohn16 (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Thanks. nt |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:30 PM Response to Reply #3 |
32. It will look exactly like it does now, U.S. will be about 300 billion dollars poorer though. |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. +1 |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
27. Leaving. Yes. |
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Mist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Leaving. nt |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
2. A Jeffersonian Democracy with gay marriage, universal healthcare and a secular government! |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
53. with people singing and dancing in the streets |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
5. Possibly a new oil pipeline. nt |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. maybe 2! |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
6. We already achieved our needs. |
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bigjohn16 (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Fair enough. nt |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
10. That ship has sailed. |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
47. you don't get to make that call. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
12. Well that depends |
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Sinistrous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Oh stop being so damned reasonable. |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
33. "Deos anybody who favors an immediate pullout think it would help reduce global tension"... Maybe |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 06:07 PM Response to Reply #33 |
48. In general terms you are right, but the question was specific |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
13. Glass Parking Lot (n/t) |
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bigjohn16 (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:11 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Ok. Is everyone in Afghanistan dead? nt |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:38 PM Response to Reply #16 |
37. I think that'd ought about do it, eh? |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
15. Leaving NOW. |
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bigjohn16 (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. But we know that's not going to happen. |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Unfourtnately I don't think it can end well |
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bigjohn16 (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Alright, thanks. nt |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. How is that success? |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
17. why do we have to have "success"? |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Well said. |
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bigjohn16 (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Fair enough. |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:44 PM Response to Reply #23 |
40. q u a g m i r e |
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bigjohn16 (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:46 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. So you think in 3 years we'll still be bogged down in a quagmire. Fair enough. |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
22. There is really only one... |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
26. To be honest, mine would be more of a fantasy. |
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Mist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. But is that something our gov't has the desire, or ability, to make happen? nt |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:42 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. I think President Obama and some officials do have the desire. |
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bigjohn16 (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:24 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. When you say fantasy do you mean you think that won't happen? |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:38 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. It's unlikely to happen with 30,000 troops and 3 years. |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
34. A country as stable as Pakistan? |
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bigjohn16 (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:37 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. So you think we should give them money and withdraw our troops? nt |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
39. Getting out as fast as we can! |
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bigjohn16 (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:45 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. With a speculative troop increase of 30,000+ and a 3 year timetable |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:52 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Apparently the new number is 15,000 and the 3 year time table is because of deployment. |
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bigjohn16 (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:55 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. What is the source for the 15,000 number? nt |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Here: |
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bigjohn16 (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 06:26 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. 1/3 less than McChrystal requested would be 30,000. Roughly nt |
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branders seine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
45. 100% exit immediately |
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bigjohn16 (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 05:56 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Fair enough but since that's not going to happen tonight what do you think the outcome will be? nt |
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branders seine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. I think our presence there will drag on with no particular or measurable |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
52. Escape. |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-01-09 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
54. Success in Afghanistan |
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