Democrats Admit Republicans Are Poised To Take Back The House In Midterm Elections

[romantico]

Very disturbing! Someone talk me down,because I am very nervous!!!

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/25/us/politics/25campaign.html

[rfranklin]

1. Not surprising...they did very little when they had the chance...

they should have done a blitzkrieg of progressive legislation. Instead, they diddled with "bipartisan" bullshit.

[movonne]

4. So sit on our hands and let the repugs take it back...I guess most

have forgotten the bush years...and that was bad enough but this time around you haven't seen anything yet...bush was just a warn up...just let them take back the congress and senate and that it folks..

[rfranklin]

22. Has nothing to do with real Dems...it has to do with perceptions...

of the "independent" voters who will follow whoever the strongest leaders are.

[FrenchieCat]

33. You mean they will follow the media and their loud voices?

Cause it is they who determine "perceptions.

Either we fight this, or we are up shit's creek.

If you believe this media bullshit,
than the media has many other items to sell you,
as your reaction is exactly, down to the comma,
what they seek.

[karynnj]

50. Wrong - they did a huge amount

Look at the things in the stimulus bill - many are things that would have been big as stand alone legislation - especially high speed rail. We also passed healthcare reform and will at a minimum pass Financial regulatory reform.

[Cha]

54. Precisely and anyone who doesn't realize that

hasn't been paying attention.

[Enthusiast]

60. HCR with a mandate and no public option.

This is a problem. While the polls showed the public option to be very popular the HCR bill that passed is not popular at all. Huge mistake.

[NorthCarolina]

53. That's pretty much it in a nutshell. n/t

[CreekDog]

64. That's not true of House Democrats, who have passed a lot of Democratic legislation

only to have it watered down or ignored by the Senate.

[high density]

2. Adam Nagourney says it all

The media is hoping they can predict the future by constantly writing about what they want to happen.

[Whisp]

12. bingo!

by November more positive benefits will be felt by a vast majority of Americans because of HCR and the tax rebates among many other things too many to list (which so many here think means shit all which is pathetically fucking sad). Things will still be tough but the improvements will be felt in many ways.

but to offset that the Media will keep on yelling, (and the pundits here will claw and scratch all the way to tear down anything positive or ignore it), about what a miserable failure the Obama administration has been which opens the door to major election fraud diddling.

They pave the way for what they want, then voila, see we knew all along this was likely to happen. fucking turdbastards.

[msanthrope]

14. This is great news for John McCain!!!!! n/t

[Jade Fox]

15. Thank. You.

The media has gone nuts since the passage of HRC, relentlessly promoting the tiny Tea Party and the idiot Palin.

Clearly the media hopes to create this reality.

[catgirl]

32. And brainwashing works

so we need to reverse their course, get off our butts and work!!! Pick a fight to battle and GO FOR IT.

[Phx_Dem]

3. I say hooey. I have no faith in Nate Silver's ability to predict

election outcomes than the NY Times. Nate says it' possible not unlikely -- I think he gave them about a 6 percent change of taking the house.

On the other hand, I actually like seeing these type of scare stories. It keeps Dems on their toes and, hopefully, the GOP and teabaggers will get lax because they think they've got it in the bag.

[Robbins]

10. I agree

I have never seen this early so much talk about the House changing hands.They didn't talk this much
about It at this time In 2006(Gezz I wonder why)

Remember Republicans keep the House In the 1990's when Gingrich was unpopular.And If Republicans were
to take It they should be worried about keeping It In 2012.To flip so soon after one party taking It hasn't happened since 1954.

I still believe the most likely outcome Is republicans pick up seats but Democrats keep control.A
possable 1982 sceniro where Democrats pick up seats but no change of control happens(although back then they already had a narror control of the House) could The Republicans take the House?It Is possable however If things continue to Improve and Obama has good numbers(He has had his best weekend numbers from Gallup In quite a while.at 50 percent approvol today.His weekend numbers often go down and not up) Republicans should not plan on SPeaker Bohener.

[golfguru]

46. The early talk will enable massive vote fraud and no one will

question it.

[Enthusiast]

61. This is the very purpose it serves.

MASSIVE FRAUD. Anyone questioning it will be "Sore Losers".

[Phx_Dem]

25. Oops TYPO! I meant to say I have MORE faith in Nate's ability.

:-(

[tritsofme]

47. Nate recently put the chance of a GOP takeover of the Senate

at http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/04/senate-forecast-update-little-chance-of.html">six percent. Although he seems much more pessimistic about the http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/04/generic-ballot-points-toward-possible.html">House, putting Democrats in a worse case scenario of losing 80 seats. At this point I don't think anyone can say with any certainty who will control the House after election day, it is a tossup.

[katmondoo]

5. After Arizona I have my doubts

Then again the country has turned whacky so who knows.

[bluestateguy]

6. I have a standing policy of not reading Adam Nagourney articles

and that goes back to the 2008 primaries.

[Mass]

38. Me too, but it goes back to 2004.

[Ikonoklast]

7. Then you are easily fooled.

This article is conjecture.

[BlooInBloo]

8. lol Ad Nags.

[Whisp]

9. of course they are 'poised', they're always fucking poised like vultures but its not going to happen

unless some voting machinery is diddled with. again.

its all bullshit.

[pdxmom]

11. That headline and then the article don't seem to match to me. To me,

poised to take back the House means that they are on the verge of, and it's almost a sure thing that is going to happen. But that article puts up a list of conditions that must happen for the GOP to take back the House, and it most assuredly doesn't indicate that it's a sure thing. It says Dems have a fight on their hands, which we already knew.

It doesn't have to happen. There will be losses, for sure. There always are. But that doesn't mean that they are going to hold all their seats, plus get the 40 they need to get back the majority.

[jenmito]

13. Huh? "Democrats are preparing to lose as many as 30 House seats.."

More quotes from the article:

"To win the majority, Republicans would essentially have to run the table in races across the country: fending off Democratic challenges to four vulnerable Republican seats in Kentucky, Missouri, New Hampshire and Ohio, and capturing 10 seats now held by Democrats. Even in this climate, Republican officials concede that an error-free year is unlikely..."

“I’m not euphoric — don’t misunderstand me,” he said. “I just get a sense that we are moving in a better direction. I don’t think Republicans are taking either one of them, but I’m damn sure they are not taking the Senate.”

[Warren Stupidity]

17. factual errors too

Both NH reps are Democrats. One seat is open because Hodes is running for Senate instead. Currently that seat appears to being going back, unfortunately, to Charlie Bass, while Shea-Porter looks like she might be able to keep her seat (yeah!)

However I do think that the angry white idiot vote is going to do a lot of damage november and it is indeed possible that the house could go. Never underestimate the stupidity of the white suburban voter.

[Jade Fox]

42. The angry white idiot vote was there in 2008....

Other than now having a name (Tea Party) and having gotten tons of attention, how many more actual voters have they recruited? And how many voters has their idiocy and fascism recruited for our side? (that's the down side of too much publicity.)

The media seems to be pulling this "Dems will lose big in 2010" right out of their collective asses.

[Enthusiast]

62. You're right.

They were there in 2008. Are we forgetting "Joe the Plumber"? Who were they taking their country back from then? They acted as if we had been in charge from 2000 to 2008. Their followers don't ask questions.

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[Aramchek]

18. way to come up with your own Headline!

[CakeGrrl]

24. +1 Why bother trying to talk someone down when they create their own doomsday?

:crazy:

[S_E_Fudd]

48. To be fair...

This is the headline used on huffingtonpost

[dionysus]

19. concern noted.

[flpoljunkie]

20. Hell no we don't!

[romantico]

21. Karl

Karl Rove is working to make sure the GOP wins big in November. He got Joe Lieberman elected and gave the White House to Bush twice. If Karl's hands are in this,we are screwed. He cheats better than anyone in the Democratic Party.

[jenmito]

23. You made up a title not supported by the article as proven by post #13. n/t

[romantico]

40. NO

No I didn't. I took the title from the Huffington Post.Scroll down!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

[jenmito]

45. Why would you take a title from a site that you DIDN'T link to? HuffPo clearly misrepresented

the story and YOU clearly did, too, especially since the article you linked to did not have that title and the article didn't support that title. Why would you choose to pick that title anyway, asking to be "talked down" if the substance of the article didn't say what the HuffPo title suggested?

[ClarkUSA]

26. Tell me, how'd Karl Rove do in 2006 and 2008?

:rofl:

[HughMoran]

28. Oh Dear God

Yeah, I also hear that Karl Rove can raise the dead and is next in line for sainthood :eyes:

[ClarkUSA]

27. This OP title is fabricated and misleading. n/t

[romantico]

41. No

I took the title from the actual article from Huffpost. Go to

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

scroll down and read yourself!

[ClarkUSA]

44. Yes. The NYT article the OP is linked to is titled: "Democrats’ Long-Held Seats Face G.O.P. Threat"

No Democrat said anything in the article which corresponds to the title in HuffPo or of your OP. I stand by what I said: this OP title is fabricated and misleading.

[salguine]

29. They made this bed, they can lie in it. For all the good the Democrats have done,

they can go ahead and lose the fucking House. I find it very, very hard to give a shit any more.

[FrenchieCat]

31. Not even worth it.

Ignore is my friend.

[FrenchieCat]

30. This shit is getting boring.

and the victimhood around here is starting to get on my nerves.

[BlueIdaho]

34. Its called learned helplessness. nt.

[FrenchieCat]

35. It's called swallowing the bullshit whole,

and then asking for more.

The media loves feeding this shit.
They live for it.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

36. I think it's a strategy to diminish expectations. A common tactic. I do not think the Reps will

take back the House. I do, however, think that they will win seats. That always happens in mid-term elections against the party in control. I'm not worried.

[karynnj]

49. I agree with your analysis

The lost will also be because in 2006 and 2008, there was a very strong Democratic Tide. There are Democrats with small amounts of seniority than Republicans and the weakest Republicans and those in bluer districts already likely lost. So, we are more vulnerable.

[Mass]

37. Where in the article does it say that?\nt

[Colonel Bat Guano]

39. 1998

I remember the 1998 election. There was a lot of pundit prediction, for a year or more, that it would be a wipeout for Democrats. A, because it was an offyear election with Dems in charge, and B, because the President was being impeached. It was predicted that there would be huge gains for Republicans, based on both those factors. Instead, Dems gained, and the conventional wisdom was reversed.

I now continually hear the same pundits citing 1998 and conventional wisdom that it went against Rs because of the overreaching of the impeachment, as something everybody "knew" before the fact. When it turned out to be a huge surprise on Election eve.

I think 2010 will play out this way. There will be a huge reaction against crazy Republican activism (the AZ law is a great example, but the Tea Partiers and Party of No stuff will work this way as well).

I wouldn't predict a gain in seats, but I think there won't be much of a loss. I still remember watching Dick Armey's drunken face in 1998 when it looked like the House might flip to Dem control on Election eve.

It's not over. Not even close. Work for it and remind people of the lies about health care and financial reform.

[Enthusiast]

63. Thanks for the encouraging words.

It helps.

[DCBob]

43. Your headline is not what the linked story is about..

Why the deception? Was it intentional? What is your motive?

[art of compromise]

51. No way.

[mstinamotorcity]

52. All that crap about

the repugs taking back congress is a bunch of media blitz bullshit.They want us to believe that horse manure so that dems can feel defeated before they start.This is no time to forget that we are in the 95%.All we need to do is the same thing we did in 2006 and in 2008. You can't let them think that you will fall for that weak ass shit. And it would probably help if we start putting our President and the things that he and his administration do, all over the place.We must make our voices heard. And it can be all grassroots. Just keep telling everyone how proud you are of him and his administration every time they achieve success.Keep helping you friends with information on new programs that are offered,like the weatherization programs,and first time home buyers credit.Every time you turn somebody on to something you let them know how they got it.Word of mouth does work and actions speak extremely loud.

[depakid]

55. I didn't even need to click on the link to know that it was an Adam Ngourney piece!

and thus, not worthy of a read.

The guy's not only a truly bad reporter (how he keeps his job, one can only guess) but as a gay man who takes every opportunity to color his copy and slant his stories disparage the Democrats, one can only wonder about his character.

[MadMaddie]

56. Yawn! Nothing but speculation!

The MSM is playing their same old tired hand of shaping public oppinion.

[zulchzulu]

57. We have all the tools and messages to absolutely pulverize the Republicans in 2010

Whether we have the balls to aim for the head instead of staring at our shoes from a messaging standpoint is another matter.

[political_Dem]

58. This makes me upset because as Democrats, we ought to know better.

After the years of defeat and being beat up in the press, the Democrats should be fighting back. These are not times to rest on one's laurels. There's a lot of work to do because if we don't become the conscience of the country, it will sink right into the Republicans' hands.

People ought be incensed by what Bush has done to our country. This should spur them on to fight to make this nation into a system that benefits everyone. Instead, the illness of conceit that the Republicans spread so well across America is taking hold. As a result, legislation and other important acts get passed without anyone considering the cost in the long run.

People are not putting a lot of thought into who can adequately represent them in order to positively shape the future of our country. Instead, we are electing place-holders and building a cult of personality around politicians who do nothing but corrupt the system.

If Arizona is an example of how the future is going to go, I hope that present day catastrophe will scare the hell out of folks enough to fight against such fascist trends in America.

[rasputin1952]

59. It's always like this before an election...and it's not going to happen...

people can be incredibly dumb, but they really aren't that stupid.

Think about this, what do the R's have to offer? They have nothing...even idiots don't vote for nothing...;)