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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:40 PM Original message |
Barack Obama: "My new strategy will be taking the fight to al Qaeda in Afghanistan" (July 15, 2008) |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. "I will send at least two additional combat brigades to Afghanistan" |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
2. A promise fulfilled is not a defining characteristic of good policy |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. did you vote for him anyway? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. That is also irrelevant to what is good policy |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. True. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I'm not acting surprised. Thats absurd |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. I'm sorry... |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I smile all the time |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. It's relevant to know if someone will vote for but not support someone... |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. That has no relevance to the nature of the policy itself |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. sigh... |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. "why would you vote for them in the first place" |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 08:06 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. And you see no hypocricy in this line of questioning? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 08:22 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Do you advocate not voting? |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 08:24 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. I advocate waiting until we hear it from his own lips... |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 08:28 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Hearing a politician's speech and reasoning isn't equivilent to hearing facts |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 08:29 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. So, your assumptions are better than the non-facts that come from politicians... |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 08:31 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Im not rich enough to save the world |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. I did. I should have voted for the socialist-progressive candidate. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
3. Yep |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. did you vote for him anyway? eom |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Are you suggesting McCain was the better choice? |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. No, and your strawman really stinks... |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:12 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. hypocrit nt |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. Did you support the war when bush was president? nt |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Straw man... |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Not a straw man at all. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. good god what utter bullshit... |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 11:19 PM Response to Reply #37 |
51. Now you label disagreement and logic as bullshit. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #5 |
36. Did I vote for him? Hell yeah |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 08:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. I'm willing to wait until I hear these things from his own lips... |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 08:40 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. That's politics |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 09:13 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. This is interesting... |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. This speech is from last summer, during the campaign... |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. I wonder how many voted for him "knowing" his campaign promise was a bad idea... |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. I did. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:37 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. I'll wait until I hear his reasons... |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
12. He was wrong then and is wrong now. But I still voted and campaigned for him! |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. I think you have already decided...... |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:30 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. He won't get primaried out. |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:21 PM Response to Reply #15 |
47. What post have I said I would not vote Obama in 2012? |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
21. Most people don't care that Obama's being consistent here. |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
26. In July '08 the Karzai government hadn't yet committed election fraud. |
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impik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
29. People knew *exactly* where he stand when they voted for him |
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optimator (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
31. al-qaeda boogeymen |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
32. The one major campaign promise he decides to keep.. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
34. It's not that we forgot - it's that he already threw more troops into the mix six months |
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knightinwhitesatin (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
38. It's too bad Al qaeda is in Pakistan now |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:28 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. "All you armchair generals"... Who the fuck are you talking to? |
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AVID (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:29 PM Response to Reply #38 |
49. hand tossed |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-30-09 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
50. But even General "Peaches" Petraeus admits that al Qaeda has FULLY re-settled in Pakistan ... |
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