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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 05:10 PM
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Barack Obama: "Instead of fighting this war, we could be fighting for the people of West Virginia."
Edited on Mon Nov-30-09 05:31 PM by chill_wind
“Instead of fighting this war, we could be fighting for the people of West Virginia."

I remember what candidate Obama said about Afghanistan. I remember this too. The Cost of War Speech on the trails.






“Instead of fighting this war, we could be fighting for the people of West Virginia,” Senator Obama said today. “For what folks in this state have been spending on the Iraq war, we could be giving health care to nearly 450,000 of your neighbors, hiring nearly 30,000 new elementary school teachers, and making college more affordable for over 300,000 students. We could be fighting to put the American dream within reach for every American – by giving tax breaks to working families, offering relief to struggling homeowners, reversing President Bush’s cuts to the Manufacturing Extension Partnership, and protecting Social Security today, tomorrow, and forever. That’s what we could be doing instead of fighting this war.”


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Five years ago, the war in Iraq began. And on this fifth anniversary, we honor the brave men and women who are serving this nation in Iraq, Afghanistan, and around the world. We pay tribute to the sacrifices of their families back home. And a grateful nation mourns the loss of our fallen heroes.

I understand that the first serviceman killed in Iraq was a native West Virginian, Marine 1st Lieutenant Shane Childers, who died five years ago tomorrow. And so on this anniversary, my thoughts and prayers go out to Lieutenant Childers’ family, and to all who’ve lost loved ones in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The costs of war are greatest for the troops and those who love them, but we know that war has other costs as well. Yesterday, I addressed some of these other costs in a speech on the strategic consequences of the Iraq war. I spoke about how this war has diverted us from fighting al Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan, and from addressing the other challenges of the 21st Century: violent extremism and nuclear weapons; climate change and poverty; genocide and disease.

And today, I want to talk about another cost of this war – the toll it has taken on our economy. Because at a time when we’re on the brink of recession – when neighborhoods have For Sale signs outside every home, and working families are struggling to keep up with rising costs – ordinary Americans are paying a price for this war.

When you’re spending over $50 to fill up your car because the price of oil is four times what it was before Iraq, you’re paying a price for this war.

When Iraq is costing each household about $100 a month, you’re paying a price for this war.

When a National Guard unit is over in Iraq and can’t help out during a hurricane in Louisiana or with floods here in West Virginia, our communities are paying a price for this war.






http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/gGBH8j

Remarks for Senator Barack Obama
The Cost of War
University of Charleston
Charleston, West Virginia
Thursday, March 20, 2008



And yes, we know what he said about Afghanistan. He just didn't mention how we were going to pay for it.
Or how that would be better than fighting for the people in West Virginia.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 05:39 PM
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1. That guy was great. Too bad he vanished into a religionist
right wing haze.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 06:21 PM
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2. End the war NOW. Bring the troops-without-a-mission HOME.
Spend the money HERE. On America and Americans.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 06:24 PM
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3. He obviously thinks the Afghanistan crisis
is important enough to give it our full attention.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 06:26 PM
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4. And then they rewarded him with about 30% of the vote
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 07:00 PM
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7. Oh, I imagine he made that speech more than once.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 07:08 PM
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8. Yeah...pick a different state next time
Edited on Mon Nov-30-09 07:09 PM by BeyondGeography
If the political choice is between fighting a war and spending money on domestic programs, I'm not sure West Virginia is Exhibit A in the slam dunk file.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 08:05 AM
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12. I guess they don't deserve help, since they voted against him
Fuck the poor people in West Virginia!
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 09:04 AM
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13. No need to
They fuck themselves all the time.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 09:23 AM
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14. Don't worry. His reward will be huge in all the states
in 2010 and 2012, because what the whole country really wants and needs is more war trillions instead of jobs and health care.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 06:38 PM
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5. He was railing against the cost of the Iraq war. He mentioned very little about Afghanistan other
Edited on Mon Nov-30-09 06:39 PM by 4lbs
than support for the families who had soldiers in Afghanistan.

He has always supported having troops in Afghanistan going after the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 06:40 PM
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6. And here's what he chose not to say to the people of West Virginia
Edited on Mon Nov-30-09 06:53 PM by chill_wind
using his own metrics on The Cost of War --- about what Afghanistan had cost them so far..

If he were to give tell them today, he would have to tell them--

Taxpayers in West Virginia will pay $622.6 million for total Afghanistan war spending since 2001.


For the same amount of money, the following could have been provided:

195,715 People with Health Care for One Year OR

284,694 Children with Health Care for One Year OR

8,811 Affordable Housing Units OR

116,381 Students receiving Pell Grants of $5350 OR

139,105 Scholarships for University Students for One Year OR

94,597 Head Start Places for Children for One Year OR

547,291 Homes with Renewable Electricity for One Year OR

12,531 Elementary School Teachers for One Year OR

18,326 Public Safety Officers for One year

http://www.nationalpriorities.org/tradeoffs?location_type=1&state=54&program=588&tradeoff_item_item=999&submit_tradeoffs=Get+Trade+Off


But he didn't. And that too is money gone. Wait until they get sent the new bill.
Wait until we all do.













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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 11:51 PM
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9. The average monthly cost of Afghan operations
comes to more than $3 billion



US troop buildup carries high costs

By Dan De Luce (AFP)- 5 days ago

(snip-- see full text)

The average monthly cost of Afghan operations comes to more than three billion and will continue to grow as more troops pour in.

Moving soldiers and supplies across the rugged Afghan landscape costs more than in Iraq, with the military consuming 83 liters or 22 gallons of fuel per soldier per day.

War spending will feed a ballooning deficit that some analysts fear could undermine the fragile US economy, while liberals in Congress worry the costly mission will wipe out prospects for Obama's bold domestic reform agenda.

The president faces the task of convincing skeptical Americans that the war is worth more sacrifices in blood and treasure.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gaT1hvI3grcrrBSrtvRqCZlJWlmw



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Can you think of better uses for the $3 billion plus/month Obama is spending in Afghanistan?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7109545#top


We cannot afford this war.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x408445#top
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 11:54 PM
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10. The INCREASES (alone) will amount to 30 BILLION dollars a year. Nobel WHAT Prize??? -nt
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 12:06 AM
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11. And most of all the human toll
Edited on Tue Dec-01-09 12:08 AM by chill_wind
in blood and treasure, in death and mayhem and suffering, past and present, we cannot even begin to put a price tag on. EVER.
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