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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 04:30 PM
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Forty percent of Democrats say they ‘probably won’t vote’ next year: poll
Edited on Mon Nov-30-09 04:34 PM by avaistheone1
Forty percent of self-identified Democratic voters say they are "not likely" or "definitely" won't vote in next year's Congressional elections, according to a little-noticed poll released over the Thanksgiving weekend.

The poll, which surveyed 2,400 Americans nationwide between Nov. 22 and Nov. 25, found that self-identified Republicans were three times more likely to say they were going to vote next year. The results suggest perilous fights for Democrats in the midterm elections, where the president's party typically lose seats.

Democratic leaders still have an almost 15-point edge in favor ability ratings over their Republican counterparts: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) has a 41 percent voter approval rating and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) clocks in at 31, whereas Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) draws just 15 percent support to House Minority Leader John Boehner's (R-OH) 14 percent. President Obama's favorability rating sits at 53 percent, according to the poll

http://rawstory.com/2009/11/forty-percent-dems-probably-vote-year-poll/



Having more republicans in Washington is going to make things rougher for Obama. But it may not be his problem in 2012 when voter realization of the personal costs of the Afghan escalation takes its toll on the POTUS.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 04:39 PM
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1. The Republicans are very disciplined and consistent when it comes to voting.
It's how they win a lot of times. We need to do more to get our own to vote just as consistently and discipline ourselves to vote every chance we get...en masse.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 04:41 PM
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3. Here's a hint: How about serving your liberal base = the average working American ...
before the multi-national corporations of the Insurance Industry as well as the war profiteering outlets comprising the MIC? :shrug:
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:12 PM
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23. Novel idea
It works for me.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:24 PM
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24. Too late for that.
The farm's done been sold, everything auctioned off, house demo'ed, and a superhighway interchange went in last week.

It's over.
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 04:40 PM
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2. I will not stop voting
It is frightening to think we may have a Republican in the WH in 2012 ... what if it is Sarah Palin?

:scared:


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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 03:54 AM
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29. 2012 is safe. Until the 21st of December. Or so I'm told. :)
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 04:41 PM
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4. They need to stop focusing on Wall Street & focus on Main Street
Oh who am I kidding, like THAT will ever happen.
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 04:43 PM
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5. Obama won't have any problems in 2012, not even with the likes of you spouting shit constantly
He'll still win.
And you still won't have a clue.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 04:46 PM
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6. That's exactly what LBJ's trusted advisors told him.
That worked out well, aye? :evilgrin:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 05:04 PM
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 05:09 PM
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13. And why, pray tell, was that?
I think you just made her point for her.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 05:23 PM
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15. I did NOT type 1968 for this. LBJ made those decisions in 1963, genius.
Edited on Mon Nov-30-09 05:25 PM by ShortnFiery
:evilgrin:



"It seems like not a very sophisticated strategy, but LBJ was doing what every president had done since Truman made the commitment in Vietnam, and that is trying to find some small incremental addition to the equation that would stop the communist advance, and preserve what territory we had," Hunt says. "Like his predecessors, LBJ was very leery of a big policy change, like major use of air power, or putting American troops in."

But Johnson soon decided the middle option wasn't enough. Saigon needed more help. LBJ called Defense Secretary Robert McNamara on April 30, 1964. The president was grasping for a way to beat back the North Vietnamese without sending American soldiers directly into battle.
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:04 PM
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20. your critical thinking skills aren't very sharp if you think Afghabistan =Vietnam
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 04:55 PM
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7. That is what George HW Bush thought after his victory with Gulf War 1.
Voters rejected Bush. Clinton won on "It's the economy stupid".

Looks like Obama will face the same fate.
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 05:08 PM
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12. You surely have a thick noggin'. Obama is not facing anyone near the caliber of Clinton.
But if you feel so confident,
I will bet you $100 DU donation that Obama wins.

Will you put your money where your mouth is, or are you just a substance-free trash talker?
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 09:06 AM
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32. it's your wildest dream is for him to lose to a republican... admit it. it's personal.
:rofl:
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 04:57 PM
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9. I agree with Aramchek.
With all the crap going around, he's still a popular president. Kennedy wasn't a very popular president; did you know that? But he would have been re-elected easily, because people liked him personally.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 05:02 PM
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10. It doesn't matter how popular Obama is if turnout is depressed
One of the main factors in winning in 2008 was the surge in registration and turnout. These new voters now need to consider themselves Obama's base. It's not just a one and done thing. These voters need to persistently continue to turn out to give Obama what he needs to succeed.

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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 04:55 PM
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8. People say that when they're angry.
My husband says it at least once a month, but he always votes first thing in the morning.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 05:18 PM
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14. That's exactly how the republicans took over congress & the country in 1994 for the next 14 years
Edited on Mon Nov-30-09 05:25 PM by LaPera
which forced eight years of George W Bush on us.....the republican controlled congress did nothing about the easily hackable electronic voting machines as well as other voting discrepancies, purging & manipulations which the slimy republicans used to their cheating advantage.

Anger & apathy by the Democrats in 1994 was the root of it all.

Dems better pass health care with a strong public option....or many Dems will just refuse to vote.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 05:40 PM
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16. Obviously, 40% of the respondents to that poll are ignorant assholes. nt
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 07:54 PM
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19. Would that be because they perhaps voted for Obama
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:37 PM
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25. I don't think they are "ignorant" just fed up
Who wants to keep voting if they find the people they are voting for, don't act in their best self interest? As Harry Truman once said: "How many times do you have to get hit over the head before you figure out who's hitting you."

I saw this happen in an election in a NY suburb a few weeks ago. People have been complaining about the astronomical property and school taxes for years. They kept voting for the same guy, he kept making the same promises. Economic times got tougher, people got more frustrated, and his Democratic base stood home. Independents went for the other guy.

There's a lesson to be learned in this. If people feel you are listening to their concerns and helping them, they will support you. They aren't going to keep voting party line if you don't help them.
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Kitsune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 09:36 PM
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26. This is pretty much exactly how I feel.
I don't see much point in voting for a Democrat when they turn around and act like Republicans the minute the returns are in.
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 10:04 PM
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27. Know what you mean
How can they count on us, if we can't count on them?
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 08:59 AM
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31. You hjave to realise that the Republicans LOVE to spread discontent among the Democrats, and
traditionally the Democrats are dumb enough to fall for it. GOP is disseminating their lies in preparation for the elections in '10 and '12.

Many people here are stepping right into the GOP's trap.
If you don't vote, you have no fucking business complaining about the result or even commenting on how terrible things are.

Put up or shut up.

mark
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 05:41 PM
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17. I guess I'm in the majority.
I'll be among the 60% who will be voting. Those 40 percenters probably wouldn't vote anyway.

In the last general election in my county 35% of all registered voters cast a vote.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 05:42 PM
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18. I hope that is not true.. I will be voting..
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:04 PM
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21. And many of them are right here on this site. n/t
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 09:07 AM
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33. funny to see so many "dems" here just yearning for their own parrty to lose. wierd, huh
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 08:04 PM
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22. I will vote.
I vote every year.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 01:34 AM
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28. I will vote
Not sure who for yet. Health care was my biggest issue, and how that turns out will effect how I vote. Its the only one of my issues that I perceive to be still in play.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 05:29 AM
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30. Idiots. They will get what they deserve..
a Republican dominated country. Fools.
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 09:43 AM
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34. I think the Dems in washington should pay to attention to this trend.
And start governing the way we hoped they might, rather than fulfilling our worst fears.
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