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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:27 PM
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Now Rove "believes he's entitled to complain about deficits"
ROVE'S INTEREST IN AN 'HONEST APPRAISAL'....

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And now that Karl Rove is outside the White House, he believes he's entitled to complain about deficits from his perch in the media establishment.

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Rove wants to see an "honest appraisal" of where we are. Good idea. The stimulus was necessary because Rove's old boss left the president an economy on the verge of wholesale collapse. S-CHIP expansion was necessary because Rove's old boss rejected a bipartisan measure to help low-income children go to the doctor. Rescuing the auto industry was necessary because it was a continuation of Rove's old boss' policy and the nation couldn't afford to cut off American manufacturing at the knees at the height of the recession. Cap and trade, Rove neglected to mention, wouldn't add to the deficit, and is necessary because Rove's old boss ignored the climate crisis for eight years. The health care reform bill would cut the deficit significantly, and is necessary because Rove's old boss fiddled while the dysfunctional health care system got worse.

That's an "honest appraisal."

Rove added, "When Mr. Obama was sworn into office the federal deficit for this year stood at $422 billion. At the end of October, it stood at $1.42 trillion."

Rove may not be smart enough to understand this, so I'll try to make the explanation simple for him.

The bulk of the $1.42 trillion deficit has nothing to do with the Obama administration's policies. The Center for American Progress' Michael Ettlinger and Michael Linden recently explained, "The policies of the Bush administration, which included tax cuts during a time of war and a floundering economy, are clearly the primary source of the current deficits." Specifically, 40% of the fiscal deterioration we're seeing -- the single largest contributing factor -- can be attributed to Bush policies. Another 12% comes from Bush's financial rescues, while 20% are the result of the economic crisis Bush handed off to his successor. What's President Obama's share? Just 16% of the total, most of which is the result of new spending that was necessary to prevent a depression.

There are some pretty sleazy pundits in the media, but when it comes to combining dishonesty, ignorance, hypocrisy, and misguided chutzpah, few are quite as offensive as the man George W. Bush used to call "Turd Blossom."

Andrew Sullivan added earlier:

I remember very vividly a heated argument with Karl Rove over eight years ago in which I worried about spending and deficits. "Deficits don't matter!" Rove kept repeating in that nasal world-weary tone he has. After a bit, I said, "What do you mean, deficits don't matter? Don't you remember the 1990s?" "No, no, no, no, Andrew," he replied. "What I mean is that people don't vote on deficits. That's why they don't matter."

I learned then that nothing beyond short term politics motivates Rove. Nothing. And I also learned: this fathomless cynicism is not just repulsive, it's invariably wrong. People sure did vote on deficits in 1992. And one small reason Obama won in 2008 is because many Independents and Republicans couldn't trust the GOP to stop spending and borrowing us into oblivion in an era of economic growth.

Now, Rove -- whose shamelessness is only matched by his incompetence -- is writing a deficit hawk column for the WSJ.... What Rove requires is what Palin requires: total amnesia of what they just said or did.




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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:42 PM
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1. I remain hopeful that Rove will be perp-walked off a Fox News set.
I would pay a dollar to see that one happen in my lifetime.

Probably more.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 05:03 PM
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2. rove is a fucking hypocritical liar..he caused the runaway
military spending and the bushcheney taxcuts for the 1 or 2 top %ers that ran the surplus that Clinton left into fubaring the treasury.

He's gets to sit down and stfu now.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 05:36 PM
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3. Dear Mr. fuck ass rove, The stimulus was architected by your boss.
The deficit was architected by your boss. Then your boss handed it over to Obama.

Admittedly, it's Obamas problem now. And that was a somewhat shrewd poison pill to plant for his administration. But it was also a completely irresponsible, callous and cynical policy making.

You are a bastard kkkarl rove. No curse does justice to your sorry existence, but it is my sincere desire that you rot in hell.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 05:46 PM
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4. Karl Rove is not entitled to complain about ANYTHING.
He and the rest of the Shufflin' Crew that just left the White House are responsible for this mess. All of it.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:22 PM
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5. I long for the day that fat fuck finds himself in an orange jumpsuit
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:45 PM
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6. Just Rove pounding his own chest over a turd he's calling a candy bar.
Rove and Bush increased the deficit by 4.9T$ with increasing deficits each year, then leaving a budget they made that continued into Obama's September 2009, and included the Republican legacy that needs stimulus and bailouts. So, out of that 1.4T$, what's Obama's part until November's one month beyond the fiscal year that ended September 30th? 0.1T$ out of 1.4T$, eat that oh buffoonish Rove.

Bush's last fiscal year stretching into Obama's term came to 1.9T$, 1.3T$ above the already 4.9T$ Bush borrowed during his eight long years. Can you say 6-plus T$ by Bush and Rove after they were left with a balanced budget in surplus by Clinton. Oh, AND they were left with the ability to recalculate and recreate rules on what constitutes a recession calling the surplus a recession as though no one could figure out that they were cooking the books in front of our eyes.

It's Rove's own turd he's parading. Someone should point that out to him.
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:55 PM
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7. KKKarl has a pair of brass ones. He needs to slither back into the
Hole he crawled out from and thank his lucky stars he is not in jail.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 07:27 PM
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8. The nerve of this guy
He ought to be in jail, not making megabucks bloviating on national TV.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 07:37 PM
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9. Oh, I get it, "Deficits don't matter"
Simply because "people don't vote on deficits". Well, they voted THIS time.

What have liberals and progressives been complaining about for 8 years? "Deficits"

And golly gee, what do we hear in EVERY Teabagger protest these days? "Deficits"

I'm sorry I ever called Rove intelligent.

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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 10:04 PM
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12. You should read up on Rove when he was a highschool and
college debater, his motivations then foreshadowed how he would play with the big boys!
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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 08:33 PM
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10. this just proves how dishonest Rove is & how you can't trust a thing he says
ever. The Right is saturated with tribalistic savages unable to see any wrongdoing by 1 of their own.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 08:51 PM
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11. Hypocritical ass huh?
There is no lower form of life than a Republican.
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 10:25 PM
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13. STFU Rove
and please tell all your proteges to STFU too
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 09:31 AM
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14. Wow did he cut those numbers carefully.
Yes, when Obama was sworn in the Fiscal Year to Date deficit was $422 billion, but CBO was projecting a $1.35 trillion deficit. It came in at $1.42 trillion, so Obama added $70 billion or so. Boohoo.
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