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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 01:35 PM
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“Innovation has now cost us $7 trillion.”
It’s Time for Swaps to Lose Their Swagger
By GRETCHEN MORGENSON
The New York Times

“Using these instruments in a way that intentionally destabilizes a company or a country is — is counterproductive, and I’m sure the S.E.C. will be looking into that.” That’s what Ben S. Bernanke, chairman of the Federal Reserve, said last week when lawmakers asked him about credit default swaps during his Congressional testimony...

Mr. Bernanke is undoubtedly an intelligent man. But his view that it’s “counterproductive” to use credit default swaps to crash an institution or a nation exhibits a certain naïveté about how the titans of finance operate now...

The certainty that Mr. Bernanke expressed about the S.E.C.’s inquiry into credit default swaps is quaint as well. If the past is prologue, we might see a case or two emerge from that inquiry five years from now. The fact is that credit default swaps and other complex derivatives that have proved to be instruments of mass destruction still remain entrenched in our financial system three years after our economy was almost brought to its knees.

Derivatives are responsible for much of the interconnectedness between banks and other institutions that made the financial collapse accelerate in the way that it did, costing taxpayers hundreds of billions in bailouts. Yet credit default swaps have been largely untouched by financial reform efforts.

This is not surprising. Given how much money is generated by the big institutions trading these instruments, these entities are showering money on Washington to protect their profits. The Office of the Comptroller of the Currency reported that revenue generated by United States banks in their credit derivatives trading totaled $1.2 billion in the third quarter of 2009.

Congressional “reform” plans for credit default swaps are full of loopholes...

Credit default swaps are “a way to increase the leverage in the system, and the people who were doing it knew that they were doing something on the edge of fraudulent,” said Martin Mayer, a guest scholar at the Brookings Institution and author of 37 books, many of them on banking. “They were not well-motivated.”

...Mr. Mayer, for one, believes that credit default swaps must be exchange-traded so that their risks would be more evident. He dismisses the contention of big institutions in this arena that many credit default swaps cannot be traded on an exchange because they are tailor-made for particular customers...

And what of the argument that increased regulatory oversight of credit default swaps will crimp financial innovation?

“This insistence that you mustn’t slow the pace of innovation is just childish,” Mr. Mayer said. “Innovation has now cost us $7 trillion,” he added, referring to the loss in household wealth that has resulted from the crisis. “That’s a pretty high price to pay for innovation.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/28/business/economy/28gret.html?pagewanted=1&ref=business
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 01:45 PM
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1. +1000
For years the main thing the US manufactured was financial products. Its funny that its the Chinese that get the criticism for producing bad products, while most Americans don't have a clue what our badly manufactured derivatives products have done to the whole world.


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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 02:00 PM
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4. Good point
Spot on, DKF!

Never thought about it in those terms until now! Thank you!

The USA manufactures the most toxic destroyer of lives on the planet! The magnitude of what our financial products has wrecked is up there with the World Wars! Go, USA, GO!

-90% jimmy
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 01:52 PM
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2. Kind of makes you miss
Al Capone. What an innocent he was.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 01:59 PM
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3. All you had to do was stay out of his way
Not so with this crowd.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 02:37 PM
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6. If he would have paid his taxes, he would have never been convicted.
Edited on Sun Feb-28-10 02:39 PM by 4lbs
Holding him on income tax evasion allowed the FBI to add later charges of violation of the Volstead Act.

Nevertheless, syphilis got him in the end.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 02:21 PM
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5. Fanancial innovation always means FRAUD.
Innovation and Banking do not mix.
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Go2Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 04:55 PM
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9. +1
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 02:48 PM
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7. INNOVATION = too new to be outlawed yet. nt
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Go2Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 04:55 PM
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8. Imagine if we threw 7 Trillion dollars on a perpetual motion machine...
This is the same type of "innovation". The only thing it did was put Billions of dollars in some huckster's pockets. Nothing "realinnovation" about it.
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jeanpalmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 04:35 AM
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10. Bernanke is not naive
He's well aware of the destructive nature of CDS. But he has been in CYA mode since the beginning of the collapse.
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